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Unread 08-10-2005, 11:52 PM   #1
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a few questions about Rubicon Springs -vs- TJ Springs

Is it true that if you were to put Rubicon Springs on a TJ Sport, that it would actually lift the TJ up another inch?
Do they fit without any issues?
Is it because the Rubi springs are more stiff?
How would the ride on the TJ Sport change, if at all?

Any input is appreciated!
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Unread 08-11-2005, 12:22 AM   #2
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From what I understand the rubi springs are taller by about an inch. Not sure if they are stiffer though. Go drive a rubi at a dealer and that should tell you if its stiffer or not. They do fit and I am thinking of getting some once its time for new bigger tires. My bfg a/t 31 10.50's are only 3K miles old!
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Unread 08-11-2005, 12:27 AM   #3
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I would not count on a full inch of lift. Some of the guys with a se say they are getting a full inch, but with your 4.0, I would guess maybe a half an inch if that.
Yes they will fit without any issues, but if you do get any lift out of them, I would realign your jeep because you will get a slight tow-out from the little bit of lift.
You will notice no change of handling after you realign.
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Unread 08-11-2005, 06:19 AM   #4
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I got an inch of lift with my SE. A friend got nothing (or close to it) using Rubi springs on his X. He did note that the ride was a bit rougher.

They are not taller springs, just a bit stiffer, and the lighter SE models get a little benefit out of it.

If you have access to a free set, however, they can be paired up to a BB. You'll experience less sagging over time. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother.
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I gained an additional 3/4" by adding the 106/130 rated rubicon springs to my REBB. Really your just getting less sag. My ride is firmer now but I like it becuase I get a little less sway when turning. I was glad I put them on because when I added my new heaver bumpers I really didn't lose any height, which was why I added them to my REBB in the first place, in anticipation of adding heaver stuff. My original springs where 104/128 and getting a little saggy. I got mine cheap on EBAY. I've read here on some thread that guys don't always like to wheel with the stiffer springs. Personally, I like them.
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...They are not taller springs, just a bit stiffer, and the lighter SE models get a little benefit out of it.

If you have access to a free set, however, they can be paired up to a BB. You'll experience less sagging over time. Otherwise, I wouldn't bother.


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Unread 08-11-2005, 07:52 AM   #7
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A Rubicon IS a TJ.
I think everyone else covered all the important info.
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I removed my Rub springs and put on OME HD's and went up almost 3 inches. How I would go up almost 3" if I was already up 1", I don't know. That would mean that someone putting on the OME system on a Sport or an X would have gone up almost 4".
I think it would be worthdoing IF your stock springs were getting tired and you could get a set from someone who just removed their Rub springs like I did (w/ less than 5000 miles). Otherwise I'd probably spring for a set of OME's.

The OME HD's are stiff. Wish I had gone for Mediums. I have a heavy bumper.
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If you want a little bit of lift for cheap...and we're talking really cheap since you can get the springs/shocks off of ebay (I've seen them for like $5 per set without shipping), I'd do it. The Rubicon ride is a lot different from the other TJ's I drove. Rides like hell on choppy turnning on-ramps here in Michigan, but the ride is better off-road.
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Rubicons have the same springs as most late model Sports and all Unlimiteds, if you have an 03+ Sport or Unlimited chances are you already have the same springs and would experince 0 lift. If you have an older TJ with some sag (like mine) they would be a cheap fix.
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Unread 08-11-2005, 01:57 PM   #11
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Thanks gang, for all of the replies. Sounds like I should only bother with a set if I can find them lying around locally.

As for this guy from WI...

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But in all reality, he is right. A Rubicon is the most capable "stock" TJ ever made. But it is not the end all, be all machine. Mine ofcourse isn't in the category yet, but I know a few people that have regular old TJ's that would stomp on a Rubicon, even in fairly modded form. Now don't get me wrong, they are nice, but a quote comes to mind: Bad-*** Jeeps are built, not bought, the rubi just makes it an easier starting point.

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i put '05 rubi springs and shocks on my 97 se 4 cyl and got 1 inch

also did not notice a big diference in ride just a bit stiffer i say go for it if you get them cheap off flea bay

i paid $50 for shocks and stabalizer and $75 for the springs
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