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Unread 07-01-2010, 07:15 AM   #46
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I am. My Dad has used it for years, and has had friends who worked at Lucas. He run Lucas in the trucks that he worked on for the over 30 years. He had engines on trucks go over 1,000,000 miles (yes, 1 million) before needing any major engine work. I believe the stuff in engines. I haven't seen a reason to not use it myself.

We've used it in old motors and it has helped improve cylinder shape and give a better compression. It has also stopped some of our older engines from burning oil as well.
Did you look at the link I posted? Foamy oil should be all the reason you need.

What kind of trucks? 1 million miles is not all that outstanding for a diesel tractor (18 wheeler). 1 million miles in an F250, now that's good.

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Unread 07-01-2010, 07:53 AM   #47
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Been running conventional Valvoline in everything for 30 years (starting with lawnmowers in my grandfather's engine shop when I was 6). Never had an issue or a reason to change.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 08:05 AM   #48
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I run Castrol GTX 10W-30 and Purolator Pure One oil filter. I heard this oil is decent in the 4.0L
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Unread 07-01-2010, 10:16 AM   #49
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Did you look at the link I posted? Foamy oil should be all the reason you need.

What kind of trucks? 1 million miles is not all that outstanding for a diesel tractor (18 wheeler). 1 million miles in an F250, now that's good.
I read the link, all of it. I'm not fully convinced. I would test more oils then just what was listed. I've have never heard or seen of that problem. There are thing all over the internet saying things one way and the other.

Yes, I meant a a tractor, semi. In the case where these trucks were doing better then the others. I don't know actual numbers but I know Lucas was doing something. The other trucks weren't doing as well. I'm pretty confident in what my Dad says with him having 40+ years in the trucking industry. I also know someone personally who worked for Lucas and dealt with it first hand and he will say to use it as well.

I have much more first hand experience with Lucas to use it, rather then listen to one internet link saying not to.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 10:21 AM   #50
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I read the link, all of it. I'm not fully convinced. I would test more oils then just what was listed. I've have never heard or seen of that problem. There are thing all over the internet saying things one way and the other.

Yes, I meant a a tractor, semi. In the case where these trucks were doing better then the others. I don't know actual numbers but I know Lucas was doing something. The other trucks weren't doing as well. I'm pretty confident in what my Dad says with him having 40+ years in the trucking industry. I also know someone personally who worked for Lucas and dealt with it first hand and he will say to use it as well.

I have much more first hand experience with Lucas to use it, rather then listen to one internet link saying not to.
That's not the only Lucas test I've seen and the other arrived at the same basic conclusion.

The other issue is, how can you expect one single formulation (Lucas' Oil Stabilizer) to work properly with every single oil formulation? It can't. And if you read the advice of each of the oil manufacturers, they all (!) strongly advise against the use of such additives.

The only benefit to using such an additive is that it lines the pockets of the Lucas owners who are laughing all the way to the bank.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 11:01 AM   #51
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That's not the only Lucas test I've seen and the other arrived at the same basic conclusion.

The other issue is, how can you expect one single formulation (Lucas' Oil Stabilizer) to work properly with every single oil formulation? It can't. And if you read the advice of each of the oil manufacturers, they all (!) strongly advise against the use of such additives.

The only benefit to using such an additive is that it lines the pockets of the Lucas owners who are laughing all the way to the bank.
You make good point, but I still want to see it. I have personally never had any problems. Can you point me to some of the links that you've read?

Luckily I haven't paid for any of it. My Dad has quite a supply of different Lucas products from working for his old company.

I guess there are pros and cons to all the products. I would like to see testing of Lucas under the circumstances I usually encounter with it.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 11:35 AM   #52
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Unread 07-01-2010, 11:38 AM   #53
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please don't...

If you must: Go to your local mopar dealer and buy mopar combustion chamber cleaner. Follow the instructions on the can or the ones in the MCCC TSB.
Why whats the differnce?
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Unread 07-01-2010, 11:41 AM   #54
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i run mobil 1 10w-30 oil and filter
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Unread 07-01-2010, 11:49 AM   #55
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It's the internet for ya!

Bottom line is I don't like the test he ran in the previous link. It was not done with few enough variables. An oil that aerated before Lucas is still going to aerate with Lucas, and it aerated more because he turned up the speed.

I could go into a long debate with someone, but it's not going to accomplish anything here.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 01:27 PM   #56
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I use Valvoline 10w30 and nothing else in my Jeep. I live in So. Cal. All oil is good oil in my opinion.
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Unread 07-01-2010, 02:15 PM   #57
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Why whats the differnce?
MCCC enters the engine as a foam. (read compressable) Seafoam enters as a liquid. Liquids are noncompressable. If you overload the engine what happens?
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Unread 07-01-2010, 02:54 PM   #59
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I'm also a Valvoline fan. I use 10w-30 dino oil in the jeep. I like to change the oil every 3K becuase of the water, dust, mud, etc...
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Unread 07-01-2010, 02:57 PM   #60
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10w 30 pennzoil here and a napa gold or wix filter. I also heard that wix makes napa's filters.

I think a good quality filter is more important then the oil if choosing form the name brand dino oil.

One time I pulled the drain plug and took old filter off. While oil was drianing I went to get new filter ready. Opened 1qt of oil to lube the seal. Opened box and removed filter and was shocked to find orange paint flecks inside of filterWTF:confu sed: I couldn't believe it. The worst part was I had no way of getting to the store to take it back. Had to wait till my wife got home from work.

Needless to say that was the last fram filter I ever bought. And when I buy filters I check them before I leave the store.

I also noticed a change in the color and odor of the oil with a better filter.
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