EBC Pads on a stock brake set-up - Page 2

Gumbo · 03-23-2008, 12:21 PM

Well, I've been thinking about upgrading my brakes to the EBC greenstuff ceramic (7000 series) pads. I'll order some soon and post my thoughts, OK?

The only thing is that I also have rear disc brakes that were already installed on the used Super35 axle that I bought. Should I just order two sets of front pads, thinking that they will fit the rear also?

Looking at a EBC application chart, it doesn't show any Greenstuff ceramic disc pads available for the rear of a '97. That makes sense as the '97 originally had rear drums, right?

**mrblaine** · 03-23-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumbo

Should I just order two sets of front pads, thinking that they will fit the rear also?

I'm not sure what your language background is originally, but where I grew up, there was almost no point in time that front and rear were ever used interchangeably.

Gumbo · 03-23-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

I'm not sure what your language background is originally, but where I grew up, there was almost no point in time that front and rear were ever used interchangeably.

OK, allow me to rephrase. Since I have a modified Jeep, one that has rear disc brakes that were not originally offered on that Jeep, I find that brake pad application charts don't give me the EBC disc pad model# to fit my rear disc brakes. However, as soon as you tell me if it's possible to use the same pads both front and rear in my application, I will be able to order those pads and you will have helped yet another newbie on this forum.

BTW, I grew up in West Texas and lived many years about 4 blocks from George W. Bush. Maybe that explains why he and I are often linguistically misunderstood.

**Kiwi** · 03-23-2008, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumbo

However, as soon as you tell me if it's possible to use the same pads both front and rear in my application, I will be able to order those pads and you will have helped yet another newbie on this forum.

Unless you have some very extraordinary setup in the rear then it's not possible.

I'd just go ahead and order the fronts, the rears you currently have will be fine (provided they are not completely worn out.)

willhbauto · 03-23-2008, 01:54 PM

Thanks for all the responses! I think for now I'll upgrade my stock pads, I will be upgrading the whole set-up within the next year, and like another post said, if $100 can make my vehicle stop a bit faster until then I think its worth it.

Gumbo · 03-23-2008, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiwi

You will be waiting a long time for someone to tell you that.

I'd just go ahead and order the fronts, the rears you currently have will be fine (provided they are not completely worn out.

Now, now Kiwi...this forum has been a wealth of information for many Jeep newbies such as myself. Surely someone here that is knowledgeable about brakes will offer some wisdom and answer a simple question about a product from a manufacturer that he/she doesn't personally profit from.

I mean, I would like to think that my original post on this thread would serve more than impetus for an attempt at humor.

fromme · 03-23-2008, 02:23 PM

Doubtful you will see any improvement by switching the rear pads. Instead of buying good pads for both front and rear, leave the stock ones on the back and put that money towards buying the best pads you can get for the front.

deltabravo · 03-23-2008, 02:54 PM

4x4Rockshop sells the green EBC pads......

http://www.4x4rockshop.com/scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=735

One of these days I will order them, I've just been lazy about doing it.

I will add that compared to when I was running 265's (tires) stopping with 33s is nowhere near the same - sometimes it's downright scary.

**mrblaine** · 03-23-2008, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumbo

Now, now Kiwi...this forum has been a wealth of information for many Jeep newbies such as myself. Surely someone here that is knowledgeable about brakes will offer some wisdom and answer a simple question about a product from a manufacturer that he/she doesn't personally profit from.

I mean, I would like to think that my original post on this thread would serve more than impetus for an attempt at humor.

I don't personally profit from 95 percent of the brake advice I dispense.

If I did stand to profit from your rear brakes, in order to do so, I'd first have to know what vehicle it's originally from and what year that vehicle is or was.

Since you don't even know what it is, I suspect I'd likely starve to death if I had to derive any income from selling you parts, because even as good as I am, I am not clairvoyant.

Even more likely to push me closer to my death bed is the fact that I don't sell anything.

Perhaps you could take some initiative and find a way to get a picture posted up so I could at least take a WAG as to what they might have originally started life as.

Gumbo · 03-23-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

Perhaps you could take some initiative and find a way to get a picture posted up so I could at least take a WAG as to what they might have originaly started life as.

Naw, don't bother. I'll ask a local brake guy and I suspect we can figure it out.

Besides, I know how busy you must be, having to write all those one-liners...

**mrblaine** · 03-23-2008, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumbo

Naw, don't bother. I'll ask a local brake guy and I suspect we can figure it out.

Besides, I know how busy you must be, having to write all those one-liners...

Alright, here's a tiny clue for you. Unless you have Wilwood aftermarket calipers adapted on your rig front and rear, the likelyhood of you needing the same pad for both is about zero.

Notice I said about and also why I haven't stated definitively that there is no way you could have the same pads front and rear. The instant I do will be the one time someone is asking that has a custom rear axle that they adapted something bizarre onto that uses the same pads for both.

I could do it, so I know it can be done, but again, very small chance.

Just out of curiosity, did you really think anyone would know what you need if you don't know what you have?

**Jerry Bransford** · 03-23-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumbo

Now, now Kiwi...this forum has been a wealth of information for many Jeep newbies such as myself. Surely someone here that is knowledgeable about brakes will offer some wisdom and answer a simple question about a product from a manufacturer that he/she doesn't personally profit from.

Talking about attitudes... pot calling kettle black. For a newbie, you think you know more than you really do, so watch your own "one liners". Just so you know, mrblaine doesn't profit from recomending EBC brake pads, and he doesn't sell them either.

Gumbo · 03-23-2008, 07:17 PM

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Just out of curiosity, did you really think anyone would know what you need if you don't know what you have?

Umm, yeah...I certainly did. What I didn't expect is that you would fail to grasp that I am a Jeep newbie, after I mentioned that fact twice in separate posts.

In fact, I've received excellent advice from knowledgeable forum members like Jerry Bransford and Stu Olson concerning a variety of tech topics. I asked because I didn't know what I had and both of those guys responded in a positive manner, telling me what to do, all without questioning my language background and without trying out a variety of comedy club one-liners designed to make me wish I had never asked a question.

In conclusion, Blaine, I stopped caring what you might think of my brakes...oh, about midway through your second show.

But, at least I tipped my waitress on the way out...

Gumbo · 03-23-2008, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford

Talking about attitudes... pot calling kettle black. For a newbie, you think you know more than you really do, so watch your own "one liners". Just so you know, mrblaine doesn't profit from recomending EBC brake pads, and he doesn't sell them either.

Yes, Jerry. I'm perfectly aware that Blaine doesn't sell/profit from EBC pads. That comment was made "tongue-in-cheek", hence the smilie emoticon at the end.

BTW, I asked a simple "yes/no" brake pad question and received a comment questioning my language abilities that took far longer to type than a simple answer to my original question.

Is this acceptable behavior from a moderator, Jerry?

**RedRubiconLJ** · 03-23-2008, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Gumbo

Yes, Jerry. I'm perfectly aware that Blaine doesn't sell/profit from EBC pads. That comment was made "tongue-in-cheek", hence the smilie emoticon at the end.

BTW, I asked a simple "yes/no" brake pad question and received a comment questioning my language abilities that took far longer to type than a simple answer to my original question.

Is this acceptable behavior from a moderator, Jerry?

You know the answer to that Gumbo.