Driving without ring and pinion - JeepForum.com

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 14 Old 07-03-2014, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
wizwoz
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 69
Driving without ring and pinion

Well, broke my ring gear in my front D30, luckily I can still roll forward, but not back. Pulled into my garage and opened up the diff:

Since I cannot back out of the garage, and I am not equipped to fix the broken gears, I could pull them out and reinsert the inner axles so I can drive it to a shop. Is this possible?

Attached Images
 
wizwoz is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 14 Old 07-03-2014, 05:41 PM
rda616
Registered User
1998 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Allegan
Posts: 3,430
Pull the axle shafts. Remove the carrier. Remove the ring gear from the carrier and reinstall the carrier. You can than reinstall the shafts. Be sure to remove the front driveshaft until your gears are replaced. Be sure to put gear lube back in the axle. The spider gears will not be happy if you don't.
rda616 is offline  
post #3 of 14 Old 07-03-2014, 07:10 PM
freeskier93
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Highlands Ranch
Posts: 7,175
Alternatively you could pull the shafts and re install with just the stub shafts, but just pulling the rear gear would probably be faster than dealing with the u joints.
freeskier93 is offline  
post #4 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:07 AM Thread Starter
wizwoz
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 69
Cool! I wasn't sure I could run inner axles without the carrier. This might be necessary out on the trail, though I got lucky and was able to drive home.
wizwoz is offline  
post #5 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:12 AM
rchase559
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: 'Merica
Posts: 2,232
Quote:
Originally Posted by wizwoz
Cool! I wasn't sure I could run inner axles without the carrier. This might be necessary out on the trail, though I got lucky and was able to drive home.
Just to be clear, you cannot run the inner axle shafts without the carrier (the part that the ring gear is attached to)
rchase559 is offline  
post #6 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:18 AM
durango-bob
Registered User
2000 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Sioux Falls
Posts: 3,139
If you have a floor jack on wheels, just jack up the front then back the Jeep out. Spin it around with the jack and drive it to the shop.
durango-bob is offline  
post #7 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
wizwoz
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 69
Wow. I've never tried to move the vehicle with the jack. I was thinking of a floor jack under each front tire, but then I would need... Another floor jack. Ok better just tear into it. If it has more internal damage I may replace the whole thing anyway.
wizwoz is offline  
post #8 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:39 AM
BigRodney
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Bend
Posts: 1,310
Hey just for our information what brand ring and pinion are you running and how did you break it? If you're not heard correctly maybe nows the time.
BigRodney is offline  
post #9 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:41 AM
chris142
Registered User
2002 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apple Valley,Ca
Posts: 3,266
take the ring gear off the carrier.put the carrier back in.put axles back in. add oil for the bearings and you can drive it that way. my friend drove home from mexico like that but his was a rear axle broke. since the ring gear will be gone you just need oil for the bearings. any ol 10w40 or whatever you have will lube the bearings fine.
chris142 is offline  
post #10 of 14 Old 07-04-2014, 10:43 AM
rikkards
Web Wheeler
 
rikkards's Avatar
1998 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 4,131
QUOTE=durango-bob;24038466]If you have a floor jack on wheels, just jack up the front then back the Jeep out. Spin it around with the jack and drive it to the shop.[/QUOTE]


Machete don't tweet
- Machete
rikkards is online now  
post #11 of 14 Old 07-06-2014, 12:45 PM Thread Starter
wizwoz
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 69
Not sure the brand (Yukon?) but it was installed by a professional and he does not use junk. I broke it no doubt by pulling backwards on a snatch strap repeatedly to pull a buddy out of a river. The wrangler is too light and dances around on the end of a snatch strap. The gears may have gotten chewed by that because I drove all the way back to the trailhead before discovering I could not back up. When I opened up the diff there was no large chunks, just a silvery fluid, so it looks like it just chewed itself up. Someone suggested the carrier might have moved around and misaligned.
wizwoz is offline  
post #12 of 14 Old 07-06-2014, 06:31 PM
mudb8
want it rite or rite now?
 
mudb8's Avatar
1999 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Estacada, oregon
Posts: 5,977
I carry a pair of stubs that have the yoke busted or stretched out to the point the caps slip in. yank both shafts and install the spare stubs to hold the unit bearings together. theres no need to even pull the cover or drive shaft. no spares? so what, itll cost you a couple axle joints if you mess them up getting the stubs off.

I want your factory 07-up take-off/thrown out JK front/rear Lower Control Arms! Bent ones are perfect also as long as the bushings and cold cut rings are in good shape/useable


HighLine Hood Jeepers
TJ Adjustable Track bars
DIY highline fenders.... 34-37's under 0"-2.5" lifts
shock length, bumpstop extension, tire size chart click here
DIY shock shifters, more uptravel/better ride




2011 E-350 4x4 Van conversion

2006 Rubicon Unlimited

ASE Certified Master Tech/Fabricator @ jeepwest.com
mudb8 is offline  
post #13 of 14 Old 07-06-2014, 07:13 PM
rikkards
Web Wheeler
 
rikkards's Avatar
1998 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Ottawa
Posts: 4,131
Quote:
Originally Posted by mudb8 View Post
I carry a pair of stubs that have the yoke busted or stretched out to the point the caps slip in. yank both shafts and install the spare stubs to hold the unit bearings together. theres no need to even pull the cover or drive shaft. no spares? so what, itll cost you a couple axle joints if you mess them up getting the stubs off.
I have a spare set of shafts that I kept from my LP when I swapped them in. Essentially when I break one that is what I am going to do (if I don't get chromo before that)

Machete don't tweet
- Machete
rikkards is online now  
post #14 of 14 Old 08-20-2014, 09:28 PM Thread Starter
wizwoz
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Anchorage
Posts: 69
Follow up: Pulled the axles, got the carrier out and removed the ring gear, put it all back together and I have a rear wheel drive Jeep. Yes, you can drive without a ring gear just fine. Shop quoted me $1400 to rebuild the whole thing, looking for other options.
wizwoz is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome