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Unread 09-30-2009, 09:15 PM   #31
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Is anyone making a drive shaft with a thompson coupling?

A shaft with two couplings one on each end would pretty much allow the transfercase vs differential to be at just about any angles...
Eliminating the need to install adjustable control arms etc.
if you can, go look at the size of a DC joint, now imagine that sticking out of your pinion...i'd want a skid plate for that... i'd rather just tilt my axle back w/ adj arms, it'd be cheaper in the long run.
i can see it being useful on the front where you want optimum pinion AND castor angles though.

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Unread 09-30-2009, 09:23 PM   #32
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Is anyone making a drive shaft with a thompson coupling?

A shaft with two couplings one on each end would pretty much allow the transfercase vs differential to be at just about any angles...
Eliminating the need to install adjustable control arms etc.
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I doubt it, I believe that is a fairly new design...

Looks like a high tech variation of a double cardan joint.

Probably pretty expensive!
Thompson Couplings Ltd
I'm tempted to email them asking about size and strength comparisons to a typical 1310 or 1350 DC joint. I highly doubt it would work in the front axle, for the torque rating we would need it, looks to complicated to make that small to fit in the knuckles.

this is a cool vid on it's operation. [yt]xgQgm3GwaFs[/yt] i'd buy one if i was rich.
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Unread 09-30-2009, 11:24 PM   #33
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I'm tempted to email them asking about size and strength comparisons to a typical 1310 or 1350 DC joint. I highly doubt it would work in the front axle, for the torque rating we would need it, looks to complicated to make that small to fit in the knuckles.

this is a cool vid on it's operation.
that is really cool. shows how driveline vibrations are caused and how we break u-joints when turning & hitting the gas too!
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Unread 10-01-2009, 12:38 AM   #34
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That really was an interesting video, but they didn't even attempt to compare the Thompson Coupling with a double cardan joint.
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Unread 10-01-2009, 12:39 AM   #35
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So I had to go look at the TCVJ website tonight. (Awesome post though! What a great looking product...)

Found this:

V-Series
Constant velocity variable angle Joints - shaft angles to 40 degrees
Reduces energy loss by reducing friction, heat and vibration, especially in applications where motors and devices have angular misalignment as well as compound angular misalignment.
Applications
Steel and paper rolling mills
Diesel motors and pumps
Electric motors and pumps
Helicopter propeller shafts
Large industrial off-Road vehicles
Marine drive lines


Looks like they are all ready making them for off-road industrial applications. I'm assuming this means skidders, logging skids, ect. I like the setup, but it looks very complex... it would be a great upgrade if you could put a big boot over it to keep gunk out. I can just imagine a stone making it's way inside and destroying the guts to that thing.

Give it another year and I bet they will produce them in a size small enough for passenger vehicles... especially if they are as amazing as they claim to be... [almost] no friction when bent?... with everyone screaming about fuel economy, that's sure to get some kind of response!
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a rectangle is a square but a square isn't a rectangle...
Care to rethink this?
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a rectangle is a square but a square isn't a rectangle...
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Care to rethink this?
Maybe he had dyslexic moment?

Probably meant:
A square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
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Probably meant:
A square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
correction:
A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't always a square.

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correction:
A square is always a rectangle, but a rectangle isn't always a square.

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a rectangle is a square but a square isn't a rectangle...


Maybe he had dyslexic moment?

Probably meant:
A square is a rectangle but a rectangle isn't a square.
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Care to rethink this?
yeah, you guys know what i mean...
read what i mean, not what i type...
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Unread 06-27-2012, 03:44 PM   #40
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So is a DC rebuildable just by replacing the ujoints?
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Unread 06-27-2012, 04:25 PM   #41
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So is a DC rebuildable just by replacing the ujoints?
As long as the fixed part of the centering ball is in good shape.

Stu has two write-ups...

http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/driv...iveshaft-5.htm

http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/driv...iveshaft-1.htm
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As long as the fixed part of the centering ball is in good shape.

Stu has two write-ups...

http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/driv...iveshaft-5.htm

http://www.stu-offroad.com/axle/driv...iveshaft-1.htm
Centering ball assembly replaceable as long as hasn't damaged post which may be what you mean. Just did my rear driveshaft last night actually.
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