Do wheel spacers make your steering wheel wobble at high speeds? - JeepForum.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:00 PM Thread Starter
bgndobe
Registered User
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Do wheel spacers make your steering wheel wobble at high speeds?

When I put my 1.5" spacers (Rough Country) on my stock wheels, the steering wheel shakes back and forth (about 1") when I get to 55mph.
Wheels are Ravines with 30 x 9.5 stock tires.
I've since took them off and it's gone.
(I was just seeing how much the tire was pushed out with them, then liked how it looked, so was going to keep them on).

I've already talked to a couple members here about it, but thought I'd make a thread to see if anyone else has had this happen.

bgndobe is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:12 PM
Unlimited04
This post/info=my opinion
 
Unlimited04's Avatar
2004 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 24,138
the shakes happened to me a little bit more with wheel spacers (when I ran them). it then got much worse when I removed the spacers and went to steel wheels with less backspacing.

Things to check:
- tires properly balanced
- tire has been correctly installed accounting for wheel/tire runout
- track bar is properly tightened and the holes aren't wollowed out
- factory POS steering stabilizer has been replaced with a larger aftermarket unit (there is a TSB on this)
- bad wheel bearings
- bad steering bushings

I had 3 of the above problems causing my steering harmonics at 45-50mph. If its shaking so bad that you can't control the vehicle, then you've got death wobble.
Unlimited04 is offline  
post #3 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:14 PM
TheBoogieman
Disturbed.
 
TheBoogieman's Avatar
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CharlottesHELL
Posts: 32,237
Hey,I know you.
TheBoogieman is offline  
post #4 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:21 PM Thread Starter
bgndobe
Registered User
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Yeah Brian......you need not reply on this one. lol
bgndobe is offline  
post #5 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:25 PM
TheBoogieman
Disturbed.
 
TheBoogieman's Avatar
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CharlottesHELL
Posts: 32,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgndobe View Post
Yeah Brian......you need not reply on this one. lol
TheBoogieman is offline  
post #6 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:25 PM Thread Starter
bgndobe
Registered User
2006 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Ontario
Posts: 53
Thanks Unlinited04.
Since it doesn't happen with the spacers off.........I don't know if I actually have a "problem" that needs fixing.
I've checked for loose/worn parts already....all was good.
The wheels have not been RE-balanced, but it doesn't do it now (spacers off), so I don't get it.
I spoke to the guy at Rough Country.....and he said make sure they're on tight. DUH !!
Any other thoughts anyone ?
bgndobe is offline  
post #7 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:33 PM
TheBoogieman
Disturbed.
 
TheBoogieman's Avatar
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CharlottesHELL
Posts: 32,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by bgndobe View Post
Any other thoughts anyone ?
Buy some cheap black steelies for the price of Spidertrax.Sell your spacers to me.
TheBoogieman is offline  
post #8 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:38 PM
klimb2xs
Registered User
2005 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Iowa
Posts: 499
Did you remove the rotor retainer clips from the lugs? If they are still on they won't allow the spacer to sit flat on the hub and will cause the wheel to wobble.

Quote:
Originally Posted by walldk View Post
Step away from from the vehicle and seek professional help.
klimb2xs is offline  
post #9 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:39 PM
Unlimited04
This post/info=my opinion
 
Unlimited04's Avatar
2004 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 24,138
Quote:
Originally Posted by klimb2xs View Post
Did you remove the rotor retainer clips from the lugs? If they are still on they won't allow the spacer to sit flat on the hub and will cause the wheel to wobble.
good point. make sure you've removed the factory installed rotor retainer clips.

if these have indeed been removed, then the only thing I can think of is the shakes somehow result from the drastic change in scrub radius.
Unlimited04 is offline  
post #10 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:39 PM
TheBoogieman
Disturbed.
 
TheBoogieman's Avatar
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CharlottesHELL
Posts: 32,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by klimb2xs View Post
Did you remove the rotor retainer clips from the lugs? If they are still on they won't allow the spacer to sit flat on the hub and will cause the wheel to wobble.
That tiny @$$ clip?
TheBoogieman is offline  
post #11 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 12:58 PM
fsSnowboard
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Greenville
Posts: 342
does that clip need to be removed when installing non factory wheels, or just hub spacers?
fsSnowboard is offline  
post #12 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 01:11 PM
Junky burp
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario
Posts: 457
I think just the fact that the tires are further out from the balljoints is enough to cause the steering to act differently. At least that's what I interpret from that "end-all.....alignment thread" Have you read that?
Junky burp is offline  
post #13 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 01:16 PM
TheBoogieman
Disturbed.
 
TheBoogieman's Avatar
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CharlottesHELL
Posts: 32,237
Quote:
Originally Posted by fsSnowboard View Post
does that clip need to be removed when installing non factory wheels, or just hub spacers?
That clip is just for removing the rotors.It's a tiny clip on just one wheel stud.I thought they did away with those on newer Jeeps.
TheBoogieman is offline  
post #14 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 01:17 PM
BowtieNut
Registered User
1997 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: MN
Posts: 62
I've had a similar situation too. Got my TJ a couple months ago, drove it for about a month, & wheeled it, never had any shakes. Put a 4" RC X-lift in it, put the same tires back on (32x11.5 BFG AT), drove it for a couple weeks, & wheeled it, never had any shakes. Got the new tires & wheels (in sig), drove it for a couple weeks, wheeled it, never had any shakes. Got the RC spacers, put those on, along with the original 32's which I saved for street use, and now it shakes at 45-50 mph. Mostly just does it if I'm going around a gradual curve. Last night I re-set the toe-in, and that seems to have helped, but I haven't driven it much yet. The toe-in was almost 1/2", now it's about 3/32". My rotor clips are gone, I've checked the spacer's tightness twice, and everything else in the suspension & steering seems good and tight. I'm hoping that toe-in issue fixed it, but if it does it again I'm gonna have the 32's re-balanced. They just came with the Jeep and I'm sure they haven't been balanced since they were new, even though some of the tread is missing chunks on the inside where it was rubbing the lower control arms (PO had 32x11.5's on stock wheels and stock suspension so it rubbed at full turn).

'97 TJ, 4.0 auto, Jeep newb,
So far: RC 4" X-series lift and SYE/CV
Swamper LTB 34x10.5 & Blackrock 15x8
BowtieNut is offline  
post #15 of 23 Old 07-16-2009, 01:21 PM
TheBoogieman
Disturbed.
 
TheBoogieman's Avatar
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: CharlottesHELL
Posts: 32,237
I think I steered you right in the PM's.Track bar/balance/alignment.
TheBoogieman is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
steering at low speeds wheel jerks pete1182 TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 14 12-13-2012 11:53 AM
shaky steering wheel at low speeds mlombardi TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 4 07-18-2009 04:54 AM
Does wheel spacers make 33's rub worse? cadencedad TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 5 07-16-2009 01:26 PM
Steering Wheel Wobble. Not Death Wobble. bigbarr TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 1 05-29-2007 12:29 PM
Steering wheel 'wobble' at 45-50 MPH MikeWL TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 15 07-16-2005 09:37 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome