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03-01-2012, 10:51 PM
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You can't trust used lockers.
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I would like to thank everyone who thanked Anticanman.
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Originally Posted by egodfrey
Well canada is a different story this is american talk here silly :rofl:
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03-01-2012, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Anticanman
You can't trust used lockers.
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x2 ... don't do this, it's got bad news written all over it.
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03-01-2012, 11:33 PM
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I have an OX in the front and an ARB in the rear. Both have worked perfectly and have given me no trouble. Either will be a good choice. I would base the decision on the total price of each with all of the needed parts and go with the best deal.
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03-02-2012, 12:53 AM
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Location: East Bay, CA
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Originally Posted by fish4life
x2 ... don't do this, it's got bad news written all over it.
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Lol that's what I was double checking on after your post, so you don't mean used you just mean somehow find a discounted new one.
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03-02-2012, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jeffnsocal
I have an OX in the front and an ARB in the rear. Both have worked perfectly and have given me no trouble. Either will be a good choice. I would base the decision on the total price of each with all of the needed parts and go with the best deal.
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That's pretty sick, you got best of both worlds. I've got a long way to go in terms of saving I just wanted to start budgeting and looking for the best quality parts, yet not a nuclear bomb to my small wallet.
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03-02-2012, 07:49 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Quail Valley, California
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Originally Posted by fish4life
x2 ... don't do this, it's got bad news written all over it.
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That is a blanket statement that has far reaching consequences and no qualifiers. That is bad news.
Don't trust used lockers? Ya'll are funny. I have a used 27 spline ARB, it was removed to put in a 30 spline and in the 60,000 miles it's been in the vehicle, it's been activated and used maybe 6 times. Really, you wouldn't trust it?
I have another air locker, it has to be sold as used because it was installed, owner wanted something different and it was removed before oil was ever put in the diff and now it's sitting in a box.
After you have your new lockers installed and turn them on for the first time on the trail, they are now used. Are you going to trust them?
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03-02-2012, 08:10 AM
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Location: Jax, Florida
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Originally Posted by fish4life
That ARB is sticker price ... nobody pays sticker price. Here is an ARB for $857. (It shows the picture for the older model three piece ARB, but the item is actually the new two piece RD116)
http://www.4ws.com/dana-44-arb-air-locker-3-92-up.html
Also, why is everyone always throwing in the extra cost of an ARB compressor, and not the extra cost of the OX locker cable and shifter?
You do realize that the Ox Locker does NOT come with the cable and shifter? The ARB compressor is an extra $160 but the cable and shifter for OX will run you pretty much exactly the same!
Personally, i would get a different compressor and a small air tank if you don't have on board air. Or at least thats what i would have done if i didn't have it.
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I have OX lockers in my front and rear axles and never had any problems whatsoever!
When I bought my OX lockers, they were only around $827.00 and came with the cable actuators. When I had them put in I re-geared to 4.88 and it cost me $1300.00 to re-gear and put the OX lockers in at the same time.
My mechanic tried to talk me into ARB's because he said they were cheaper but I said I wanted to support my State businesses by going with OX (OX lockers are made here in Florida). He could not believe that when he ordered the OX lockers that they were in fact, CHEAPER than the ARB lockers. Not by much, but cheaper!
My Jeep mechanic said he was going to start promoting OX lockers after my install.
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03-02-2012, 08:19 AM
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I choose to judge them on which one I beleve is going to be more reliable in the long run.
That to me is the OX with its very sturdy cable. NO electric wire or air hose is going to hold up as well compared to the Cable.
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03-02-2012, 08:21 AM
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I have a rear OX in mine on a 44 and it is rad. I've never had problems with the cable or anything. Super solid and stong for sure.
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03-02-2012, 08:25 AM
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Hasn't their been a lot of concern with OX's business practices and customer service? It seemed to me that not too long ago everybody was bashing OX on the customer service.
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03-02-2012, 08:33 AM
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Location: Jax, Florida
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Originally Posted by mrblaine
Don't forget you can run 2 ARB's with one compressor, but you can't shift two Ox Lockers with one cable.
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Yes but you cannot lock or unlock your ARB lockers if your compressor or airlines fail. (I do think ARB's are good lockers though)
Remember, I can still actuate my OX lockers with a pair of pliers if I want and I havent had either one of my OX actuator cables fail in 6 years.
I do not know why you ARB guys always try to talk the OX lockers down so much! I have never heard anyone with OX lockers talk the ARB lockers down, EVER! We OX locker people think that ARB lockers are some of the best lockers on the market but I also think that OX lockers are right there with ARB lockers and I do like the cable idea better than the air idea when I can lock or unlock my lockers with a pair of pliers if one of my cables fail. Can you unlock/lock the ARB lockers if your compressor or air line fails? Then again the ARB lockers do not fail too often thats why they are so popular, especially in the West.
Like I said both lockers are some of the best lockers on the market, just a little bit different. This difference gives peopple an option.
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03-02-2012, 08:37 AM
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Location: Jax, Florida
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Originally Posted by Anticanman
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Without the compressor, right!
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03-02-2012, 08:38 AM
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Location: Pacific, Washington
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Originally Posted by nitecop
I choose to judge them on which one I beleve which one is going to be more reliable.
That to me is the OX with its very sturdy cable. NO electric wire or air hose is going to hold up as well compared to the Cable.
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Really? If an air hose is so unreliable what are you running for brake lines? The nylon air hose ARB uses isn't the most durable but it's easily repairable on the trail. How do you fix a failed cable? ARB lines usually fail because of poor routing or securing of the line and get caught on things on the trail. Semi trucks use a similar line for their brakes as well.
There are also aftermarket braided solutions to the ARB line that comes with the locker.
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03-02-2012, 08:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: from the land of pleasant living
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Originally Posted by mrblaine
That is a blanket statement that has far reaching consequences and no qualifiers. That is bad news.
Don't trust used lockers? Ya'll are funny. I have a used 27 spline ARB, it was removed to put in a 30 spline and in the 60,000 miles it's been in the vehicle, it's been activated and used maybe 6 times. Really, you wouldn't trust it?
I have another air locker, it has to be sold as used because it was installed, owner wanted something different and it was removed before oil was ever put in the diff and now it's sitting in a box.
After you have your new lockers installed and turn them on for the first time on the trail, they are now used. Are you going to trust them?
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for some reason though blaine, even though never meeting you before, id trust you more than some guy off of craigslist (unless of course it was blatently obvious that the part in question is a good buy).
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03-02-2012, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Jax, Florida
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Originally Posted by Speed911
Hasn't their been a lot of concern with OX's business practices and customer service? It seemed to me that not too long ago everybody was bashing OX on the customer service.
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That was actually years ago when the first OX lockers came out. They had a problem with the lockers and stopped making them for a short time. Since then A different company bought OX and re-engineered the lockers and they have been GTG ever since. I think the company that bought them is Florida Machining or something like that around the Ocala, Florida area.
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