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Unread 05-21-2014, 04:54 AM   #1
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Do I need wheel adapters?

Hello I've been tinkering with my used Jeep I bought and found out strange thing, when I took the wheels of it was really hard to place them back and center. There is a big gap between the wheel hole and the hub of the axle. I took a picture of it the hole of the wheel is about 3 and 5/16 inches and hub size should be standard 2 and 3/4. Is it normal like that?
Should I get some king of wheel adapters to fix it? If yes can someone please recomend which ones?
Or can the issue be fixed by getting some push thru center wheel caps. If yes then what size should they be I guess standard ones 3.3 Inches should fit or should I take 3,18 inches?

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Unread 05-21-2014, 06:22 AM   #2
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No that's normal with aftermarket wheels... they're designed to fit many applications so the center bore is large enough to fit any. The lug nuts do fine centering the wheel

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Unread 05-21-2014, 06:46 AM   #3
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Yeah, there is hub centric and lug centric. Good wheel adapters will be hub centric but most folks run correctly backspaced aftermarket wheels lug centric as shown in your picture.
Your wheels, and lug nuts, should have a 60° conical taper with the "bulge" and will center the wheels when torqued properly.
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Unread 05-21-2014, 06:48 AM   #4
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hah.. @Steelsopr I like your Locking lug system/deterrent.. three different sized lug nuts..
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hah.. @Steelsopr I like your Locking lug system/deterrent.. three different sized lug nuts..
And of the 5 lug nuts on there, only one is correct for alloy rims.
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Unread 05-21-2014, 09:35 AM   #6
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Yeap its your nuts that giving you the trouble here...... Get the right ones and the rim will center up on them. Rather have the hub centric version of a rim, but no need in this case.
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Yeap its your nuts that giving you the trouble here......
Oh my, not that!

You don't have to run the open style, but here's an example of the correct profile, in the first pic, a 60° conical with the bulge. I currently run the "ET" (E-xtended T-hread) style, the second pic.
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Oh my, not that!

You don't have to run the open style, but here's an example of the correct profile, in the first pic, a 60° conical with the bulge. I currently run the "ET" (E-xtended T-hread) style, the second pic.
Some rims, especially the higher strength versions have very thin wheel mount areas and the nose on the ET lug nuts can stick past and bottom out on the shoulder on the lug studs that stick past the face of the unit bearing flange. Test them first to make sure they don't get too close to the back face of the rim.
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Unread 05-21-2014, 12:23 PM   #9
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So here is a question: Because he/she used incorrect lugs.. would the wheels lug pattern have been distorted.. Then there is the assumption that because of the out of round.. could this have damaged something other than the wheel.. shocks, bushings etc..
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Yeap its your nuts that giving you the trouble here...... Get the right ones and the rim will center up on them. Rather have the hub centric version of a rim, but no need in this case.
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Some rims, especially the higher strength versions have very thin wheel mount areas and the nose on the ET lug nuts can stick past and bottom out on the shoulder on the lug studs that stick past the face of the unit bearing flange. Test them first to make sure they don't get too close to the back face of the rim.
Good point Blaine! I recall testing my American Racing Outlaw II's to ensure thickness...
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Unread 05-22-2014, 07:04 AM   #12
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Thank you everybody, The thought to change the nuts did cross my mind, but was not top priority. Now I will look in to getting proper lug nuts.
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Thank you everybody, The thought to change the nuts did cross my mind, but was not top priority. Now I will look in to getting proper lug nuts.
You are looking for the ones that have the bulge like the single factory one on there has. The ones without dig into the countersink area with the corners of the hex and ruin the seats in the rim.
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