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Old 06-29-2007, 09:13 PM   #16
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1) I agree, but with the small size of the stock rear bar the unsprung weight will over power the bar..
If you exceed the limit of suspension travel wich I visualize as lifting the right tire off of the ground, the bar would be near maximum twist. A have had mine in this condition a few times and my bar is not deformed. At these limits the unsprung weight and the skinny bar (acting as a spring) is helping to keep me from going over. Why are limit straps recommended on the front of a disconnected axle? How is the rear bar acting any different at it's limit?

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2) I see the reverse of the above happening..
So left side is trying to push right side down?

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Old 06-30-2007, 07:59 AM   #17
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I guess I'm dense. I don't understand your question. There is more goion than just the rear bar keeping you from going over. What's happeneing up front? any pics?
A sway bar will alwasy ttry to equalize the left/right action of the suspension.
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Old 06-30-2007, 08:41 AM   #18
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A sway bar will always try to equalize the left/right action of the suspension.
Bingo! With an "anti" sway bar in place, as one side of the suspension is compressed, the sway bar exerts a force to compress the opposite side resulting in reduced force between the tire and ground on that side.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:02 AM   #19
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Bingo! With an "anti" sway bar in place, as one side of the suspension is compressed, the sway bar exerts a force to compress the opposite side resulting in reduced force between the tire and ground on that side.
Actually it will try to pull the other side untill the body is level or the bars limit is exceeded.
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Old 06-30-2007, 09:49 AM   #20
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Actually it will try to pull the other side untill the body is level or the bars limit is exceeded.
Same thing. The sway bar pulls on the axle compressing the suspension.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:47 PM   #21
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Actually it will try to pull the other side untill the body is level or the bars limit is exceeded.
At the moment the limit is exceeded (I was thinking failure - sorry) ) disconnect the bar and what happens?

Offroad if the left rear tire were in severe bump and you were carrying the right and the bar were disconnected, what would happen?

How is it any different in crawling around. The bar twists and the ends move in opposite directions. Offroad it acts as a limit strap at it's maximum ability to twist. Seems like more upside for running than down.
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Old 06-30-2007, 12:54 PM   #22
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At the moment the limit is exceeded (I was thinking failure - sorry) ) disconnect the bar and what happens?

Offroad if the left rear tire were in severe bump and you were carrying the right and the bar were disconnected, what would happen?

How is it any different in crawling around. The bar twists and the ends move in opposite directions. Offroad it acts as a limit strap at it's maximum ability to twist. Seems like more upside for running than down.
I agree with your premise. But on MY jeep I feel like it's stable enough without it. I like the extra flex i can achieve from not having it. Over the loss of stability I can't feel.
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