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Unread 05-07-2012, 04:57 PM   #1
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Detroit Truetrac In Front And Rear Axles?

hello i have a 2003 jeep wrangler 4 inch lift 33 inch tires dana 30 front axle and dana 35 rear axle and 4.56 gears.

i am looking at getting truetracs installed in front and rear axels i wanted to make sure that i could do that. i talked to 4WD.com and they said that i need a hub conversion in order to install a truetrac in the front axel that it would drive weird or bad without one but i have seen numerous people say its fine in front axel without hub conversion. i know the benefits of them and if the tire is off the ground and all that i live in louisiana all we do is mud here so i am fine with that.

my question is can i install a truetrac in front and rear axel of my jeep it is a DD and be fine with that or will it mess up something or the way it drives thanks!

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Unread 05-07-2012, 05:07 PM   #2
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Im doing the same install without locking hubs and Im in snow and ice, all the reviews I have read say at first you can feel the TrueTrac in the front, you can tell its there but within a day or so you dont feel it anymore once you get used to the 'feeling' of it, I have never read anything anywhere that even suggests you have locking hubs, maybe someone wants to sell you some hubs Here are some reviews of the True-Tracs, its very much worth the reading.

http://www.offroaders.com/reviewbox/...hp?product=252

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f249/...ruetrac-771848

http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssue...ticle=truetrac (toward the bottom is "Ongoing Tests")

There is a few to get you started. Enjoy.
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Unread 05-07-2012, 06:10 PM   #3
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No hub changes needed. You will really like those TT's. Since your in LA. where I guess it dosn't snow much, why not a Detroit locker in front?
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Unread 05-07-2012, 06:30 PM   #4
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Thinking about that too. Thanks for the links.
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Unread 05-07-2012, 06:38 PM   #5
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Eric, where do you normally ride in LA. I am an hour north of BR and we normally ride over in Sicily Island and I have made a trip down to St Francisville for a ride once.
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Unread 05-07-2012, 06:42 PM   #6
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Hadda ask twice?
http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/de...a-30-a-255376/
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Unread 05-08-2012, 09:06 AM   #7
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we normally ride around st francisville and i am going with TT because people say they work very well and they are not as expensive as a locker!
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Unread 05-08-2012, 09:10 AM   #8
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If at all financially possible, go with a selectable locker in front. It'll be much easier to steer while on the trails.
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Unread 05-08-2012, 09:12 AM   #9
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i don't want to have to turn anything on or anything electrical for problems for something to go wrong. i want a truetrac always there and ready to go and it uses it self!
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Unread 05-08-2012, 11:13 AM   #10
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I have a 2 inch lift with true tracks in both axles and 32 inch tires. For the wheeling I do, they are great.
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Unread 05-08-2012, 11:25 AM   #11
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I've been wheeling dual Truetracs for over 5 years now and I am very happy with them. Many think that I'm locked and are surprised when I tell them that I'm not.

You do not need a hub conversion for the D30, I did not bother or even consider it. I've experienced zero ill effects in my front end despite not having the hub conversion .

I daily drive my Jeep to work and home. The Truetracs are absolutely transparent on the road IMO.
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Unread 05-08-2012, 12:36 PM   #12
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In the front d30 no hub conversion is required/necessary. A "locked" front will give you better off road capability, so it's worth giving a thought to the Detroit Soft Locker in the front, in lieu of the True Trac.

Regarding limited slips and one wheel off the ground: If one wheel is spinning in the mud, it's just like having one wheel off the ground. I've seen plenty of rigs with limited slip rears have trouble on the muddy/sloppy northwest trails. That said, if your trails are anything like ours, the full Detroit locker up front would be better off road, and just as invisible as the limited slip, on the road, up front.

The limited slip in the rear has excellent street manners, and will lend longevity to the life expectancy of your d35, and is helpful off road. All I'm suggesting here is to give some thought to a "locker" up front if you're going to spend that kind of money.
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Unread 05-08-2012, 01:23 PM   #13
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What Ragged said.

You'll love the TT in the back. As to the front, I installed an autolocker, and like it. In 2WD for normal driving, it's invisible; also, it's cheaper and easier to install than a TT. But a TrueTrac is a great choice too and would be just as invisible, plus better for your turning radius when in 4WD. See the thread in my sig for more details.

Whether to lock or do a TT in the front is a decision that you should make based not upon whether it will hurt your normal driving (it won't), but based on the kind of wheeling you do. More rocks, big stuff where you might lift a tire, and slower = locker; more mud, snow, small stuff and faster = TrueTrac.
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My do-it-yourself install thread for a TrueTrac in the rear, upgraded shafts, and a PowerTrax No-Slip in the front:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/ex...hafts-1234745/
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Unread 05-08-2012, 02:30 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by erics1019
we normally ride around st francisville and i am going with TT because people say they work very well and they are not as expensive as a locker!
I am gonna have to try to make a few more rides down there. Let me know when you are going next and I might be able to make a trip down.

Now as far as your plans, the true-track in the back is a nice addition but I would go with a lunch box auto locker in the front. I have an Aussie in the front and it is great. It made an amazing difference on the trail after I installed it. I haven't noticed much if any turning radius loss either. Fully locked in the front is way better than sort of kinda maybe a little locked limited slip true trac.
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Unread 05-08-2012, 03:19 PM   #15
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The Trutrac is not a clutch type LS. I had one in the front of a TJ and it worked great (my brother still has that jeep). You will never know the trutrac is in the front. I have never seen the wheel in the air spinning.

Oh, and that Trutrac has broken 2 axles... Must work pretty good!
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