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10-24-2006, 09:38 AM
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Hi all,
A jeepclub member of the dutch jeepclub had a little accedent last weekend. He drove his TJ in deep water with a ARB snorkel but after a few runs the engine stalled. After inspection they saw that water had run in the auto transmission and boiled the oil out ! end of transmission !
Now my question : I read some write up a time ago on (i think) this forum but i can't find it (search is out).
Does anyone know this problem and the solution or the link to that page ?
Thanks in advance,
Bart
sorry for my bad englisch.... 
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10-24-2006, 09:51 AM
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HIs only solution will be rebuild the transmission. He can add a longer vent line at that time. I never do the deep water stuff myself (past bottom of the floor boards anyway)
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10-24-2006, 10:08 AM
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Here's more info on re-locating the auto tranny vent.
Click!
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10-24-2006, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by fyrfyter43
Here's more info on re-locating the auto tranny vent.
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Yes !
thans guys that whas the thead i was lookin for !
THANKS
Oh BTW pics of our last jeepcamp event : http://www.jeepclub.nl/JeepClub_Nede...uwsPagina.html
klik on bart vd brul for my pics
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10-24-2006, 11:04 AM
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do all Jeeps have this problem?
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10-24-2006, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by bmboll
do all Jeeps have this problem?
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Yes - but later year jeeps have a long vent tube. Jeeps arent suppposed to drive under water though
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10-24-2006, 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by bmboll
do all Jeeps have this problem?
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Yes and no... The 3sp autos have the vent in the bell housing with no way to extend it with out welding the hole shut and then tapping a new hole. The manuals I believe though have the breath on top and can easily be extended to avoid this...
I have an auto and until I can find the time to re-locate the breather I avoid water past the middle of tires if possible. A few times on flooded roads I have gone through and has the alxes completely under and the t-case skid at about the water line. If that happens just take it slow to avoid splashing up around the tranny and then flush the fluids...
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10-24-2006, 12:21 PM
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So if I have a 05 4.0 Auto do I need to be concerned? If so can I fix it without welding and tapping?
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10-24-2006, 12:26 PM
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I think the general consensus is if you have a auto, stay away from deep water and if you have a man, tie your left foot behind your ear to prevent pushing in the clutch while fording it.
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10-24-2006, 12:42 PM
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I had the same thing happen this summer. Was trail riding and hit a mud hole and the auto trans took in water. It was destroyed by the next day, even after I changed the fluid and filter. (it might have been mentioned already, but water breaks down the friction material and adhesives..
I relocated the vent tube, and had the trans rebuilt, I am now searching for a aftermarket torque converter and not having much luck.
Would love to get this thing back on the road before deer hunting..
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10-24-2006, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bmboll
So if I have a 05 4.0 Auto do I need to be concerned? If so can I fix it without welding and tapping?
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The 4spd auto's have the breather up much higher -- pop you hood and look for the auto-trans dipstick... the breather should be in that general area. It's pretty high up. I've read a thread or two that suggested their 4spd breather wasn't in the right place (don't know that for a fact.... going by memory), so do take a few minutes to locate it to confirm.
I've taken mine up to the tops of the tires -- no problems. That's about as high as my personal comfort factor will allow me to go.
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10-24-2006, 07:36 PM
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I have got water in mine 2 times, did a lot of flushing with ATF +4 and all, is ok now. It takes about $100.00 dollars in oil plus a couple of filters each time.
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10-24-2006, 07:42 PM
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So basically if you do a snorkle kit then you better extend the tranny vent too huh?
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10-24-2006, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Autobot1
So basically if you do a snorkle kit then you better extend the tranny vent too huh?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the original intention of having a snorkle to keep your air intake above trail dust, not for deep water crossings.
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