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View Poll Results: When you experienced DW, what kind of front CA bushings were you running?
Stock OE Clevite (rubber) 118 73.29%
Poly 9 5.59%
Mix of Rubber and Poly 7 4.35%
Johnny Joints 8 4.97%
Mix of Johnny Joints and Rubber 9 5.59%
Heim Joints or other-brand articulating joint (RC, RE, etc.) 3 1.86%
Mix of Heim/other joints and Rubber 7 4.35%
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Unread 09-01-2010, 09:27 AM   #16
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I had DW due to wallowed out track bar hole on axle and poorly balanced swampers.
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Ok! But would you still mind contributing to the poll with the information regarding your CA bushings?


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Unread 12-26-2011, 09:24 PM   #17
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I fought with DW for quite some time. In the spirit of the OP's intentions for this thread, and with regards to bushing's, the upper bushings on the axle end were, in my estimate, the major contributor in my case. I ended up swapped them out in favor of the Currie/Johnny Joint style. This resulted in the single biggest improvement to my DW at the time, though it wasn't completely gone. Soon after that, when the budget allowed, I swapped out all 4 of the front control arms to Currie with Johnny Joints.

I need to add though, that my steering linkage was complicit, too, and I changed it out to Currie. The front factory track bar was also complicit so I swapped it out in favor of a JKS...and, before I finally got the DW resolved, I'd completely worn out the ends of the new Currie drag link... One end was due to my "over greasing it", the other was a victim of the DW...

DW was in my case, vicious. To minimize further damage to my front end, each time I repaired/replaced something, I'd go for a test drive only to discover the DW was still there. So, I would set the toe "out" 1-1/4". I was taught that by doing this, the DW symptoms will disappear, and they did. The down side is whatever caused the DW was still there, and driving with the toe out that far made driving a white knuckle affair. However it would buy me time for my repair budget to get beefed up again, without continuing to wear out my front end components faster than I could replace them...
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Unread 12-26-2011, 09:29 PM   #18
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I had DW due to wallowed out track bar hole on axle and poorly balanced swampers.
X2 on the wallowed out hole and me it was a set of 33x10.50 tires that I think were never balanced right. Made me think tall skinny squishy tires had something to do with it also.
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Unread 12-26-2011, 09:34 PM   #19
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X2 on the wallowed out hole and me it was a set of 33x10.50 tires that I think were never balanced right. Made me think tall skinny squishy tires had something to do with it also.
As I went through the DW, I never balanced my tires. Only AFTER the DW was completely gone did I have them balanced. And I keep them balanced...it's been said before, but perhaps it needs repeating that out of balance tires don't cause DW. Out of balance tires wear out the front end components, that causes DW. So yes, I agree that tires have a part in the movie...
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Unread 12-26-2011, 11:17 PM   #20
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So if the DW had nothing to do with CA bushings and still want a persons poll, then exactly what facts are you on the hunt for about DW and CA bushings? Would seem your findings would be a little skewed
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Unread 12-27-2011, 12:01 AM   #21
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it's been said before, but perhaps it needs repeating that out of balance tires don't cause DW.
Out of round tires do.
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Unread 05-26-2012, 05:41 AM   #22
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New jeep, 26 thousand mules, budget boost puck lift, never intend to wheel this jeep, (to satisfy the wife) its her driver.... Now its her slow driver, any bumps at 50, and DW ..... Ughh. budget boost coming out and going to do a chaep body lift... Gross.
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Unread 05-26-2012, 07:22 AM   #23
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New jeep, 26 thousand mules, budget boost puck lift, never intend to wheel this jeep, (to satisfy the wife) its her driver.... Now its her slow driver, any bumps at 50, and DW ..... Ughh. budget boost coming out and going to do a chaep body lift... Gross.
Do you have it in your mind that removing the budget boost for a body lift is going to cure DW? If so, you might want to read up some more....
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Swapping in poly bushings reduced my DW to an occasional shimmy.
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Unread 05-26-2012, 11:46 AM   #25
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New jeep, 26 thousand mules, budget boost puck lift, never intend to wheel this jeep, (to satisfy the wife) its her driver.... Now its her slow driver, any bumps at 50, and DW ..... Ughh. budget boost coming out and going to do a chaep body lift... Gross.
Unless your talking about a JK in the TJ section thats not a new Jeep... time affects rubber and any TJ/LJ is at least six years old. I doubt the BB is the real root issue, you might want to take a closer look.
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I like having my panties in a wad though, because when I get DW they rub me in just the right way! :D Wadded panties plus DW equals Jeepgasm! :D :kiss:
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Unread 05-26-2012, 12:00 PM   #26
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When I got new tires, it was 90% gone, When I got new ball joint, TRE, outer TR, and draglink from MOOG it was 100% gone. I do run a dual steering stabilizer on 31 in tires though....
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Unread 05-27-2012, 02:48 PM   #27
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My last case of DW was worn bushings on my front lower Rock Krawler Control arms. I replaced the bushings with Johnny Joints.
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Unread 05-27-2012, 03:32 PM   #28
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New jeep, 26 thousand mules, budget boost puck lift, never intend to wheel this jeep, (to satisfy the wife) its her driver.... Now its her slow driver, any bumps at 50, and DW ..... Ughh. budget boost coming out and going to do a chaep body lift... Gross.
Senőr I would very much love to have your 26,000 mules.

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Unread 05-27-2012, 10:19 PM   #29
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Senőr I would very much love to have your 26,000 mules.

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Unread 05-27-2012, 11:28 PM   #30
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I never got DW with all stock front suspension components running 33s with 150k on them. It did have a nasty shimmy at about 45 though.

With currie arms, currie trackbar, and ZJ tie rod the shimmy is almost completely gone. I'm thinking a johnny joint housing kit to get rid of the last of the rubber bushings will really tighten up the front end, new ball joints will probably help too. I did notice a big change in just changing the control arms to curries though, rubber bushings have no place in the jeep that actually gets wheeled. IMO
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