Guys,
First off, I'm starting a new thread, I'm sorry I already have another thread on the subject but I really need some help on this one.
I've taken my jeep to three shops now. I personally and the three shops have inspected the jeep and can't find anything wrong to fix the death wobble. It happens between 55-65 and is triggered by hitting even the smallest bump in the road.
Here is the latest alignment numbers. Note: I did the initial setup on this with a tape measure after I found that the previous shop either didn't adjust it or couldn't adjust it, it was 1/2" toed out. Don't know why.
All below are in degrees
Front Actual Before Spec
Cross camber -.05 -.4 -1/1
cross caster 0.0 0.0 -7/.7
cross SA 1.0 0.9
Left
Actual before spec
Camber -.6 -.6 -.9/.4
Caster 6.8 6.8 6.0/8.0
TOE .18 -.06 .09/.21
Right
Actual before spec
Camber -.1 -.1 -.9/.4
Caster 6.7 6.7 6.0/8.0
TOE .12 -.02 .09/.21
FYI Jeep is stock height, stock size tires, NEW
Tires Verified for balance previous to alignment
Has new track bar, NAPA with a new High durometer Bushing, 7/16" bolt
New tie rods and adjusters
New linkages
New control arm bushings upper and lower
All torques checked
Verified steering wheel play with engine off, non
Verified wheel bushings for play, prybar between axle housing and u-joint housing at axle end. No movement
Verified ujoints in axles by prybar method. No movement
Verified Balljoint by tires off ground, large pry bar under tires. No movement
Verified steering box loosness, no movement
New Shocks
New steering damper "Rancho" Model.
So now what? The shop yesterday was scratching thier heads. I only told them to check for the alingment and told them it shimmy's. Nothing else. I didn't want to taint any information. The alignment guy told me "I thought I was going to die, you really shouldn't be driving that thing"
So now, three shops and the entire front end is new except wheel bearings, balljoints and steering box. Any IDEAS?
Again, minor bump, 55-65mph. Any concrete freeway, as the newyorkers say, "forget about it"
Oh, the only thing different on the set up. It is using a 97 jeep grand cherokee solid bar tie rod on the lower instead of the hollow tube type that is stock. I'm down to maybe just putting a stock set up back on just to see if it corrects it :dunno: Although this looks just like a currie set up.
Heres the parts
Jeep wrangler
tie rod Ptmn to knuckle DS1430
Left outer ES3094
left inner es3095
At pitman es3096
Tie rod connector 3' DS1326S
Used these instead off all the above.
cherokee
tie rod Ptmn to knuckle DS3110
Left outer ES3096
At pitman ES3096
Tie rod V8 solid bar DS1312
Adjusting sleeves qty 2 ES2079S
Note because the lower Tierod is solid you use two of the same tierod ends instead of three different ones on the vehicle. This set up would be the same type of setup after market shops sell to "upgrade" to tougher components.
First off, I'm starting a new thread, I'm sorry I already have another thread on the subject but I really need some help on this one.
I've taken my jeep to three shops now. I personally and the three shops have inspected the jeep and can't find anything wrong to fix the death wobble. It happens between 55-65 and is triggered by hitting even the smallest bump in the road.
Here is the latest alignment numbers. Note: I did the initial setup on this with a tape measure after I found that the previous shop either didn't adjust it or couldn't adjust it, it was 1/2" toed out. Don't know why.
All below are in degrees
Front Actual Before Spec
Cross camber -.05 -.4 -1/1
cross caster 0.0 0.0 -7/.7
cross SA 1.0 0.9
Left
Actual before spec
Camber -.6 -.6 -.9/.4
Caster 6.8 6.8 6.0/8.0
TOE .18 -.06 .09/.21
Right
Actual before spec
Camber -.1 -.1 -.9/.4
Caster 6.7 6.7 6.0/8.0
TOE .12 -.02 .09/.21
FYI Jeep is stock height, stock size tires, NEW
Tires Verified for balance previous to alignment
Has new track bar, NAPA with a new High durometer Bushing, 7/16" bolt
New tie rods and adjusters
New linkages
New control arm bushings upper and lower
All torques checked
Verified steering wheel play with engine off, non
Verified wheel bushings for play, prybar between axle housing and u-joint housing at axle end. No movement
Verified ujoints in axles by prybar method. No movement
Verified Balljoint by tires off ground, large pry bar under tires. No movement
Verified steering box loosness, no movement
New Shocks
New steering damper "Rancho" Model.
So now what? The shop yesterday was scratching thier heads. I only told them to check for the alingment and told them it shimmy's. Nothing else. I didn't want to taint any information. The alignment guy told me "I thought I was going to die, you really shouldn't be driving that thing"
So now, three shops and the entire front end is new except wheel bearings, balljoints and steering box. Any IDEAS?
Again, minor bump, 55-65mph. Any concrete freeway, as the newyorkers say, "forget about it"
Oh, the only thing different on the set up. It is using a 97 jeep grand cherokee solid bar tie rod on the lower instead of the hollow tube type that is stock. I'm down to maybe just putting a stock set up back on just to see if it corrects it :dunno: Although this looks just like a currie set up.
Heres the parts
Jeep wrangler
tie rod Ptmn to knuckle DS1430
Left outer ES3094
left inner es3095
At pitman es3096
Tie rod connector 3' DS1326S
Used these instead off all the above.
cherokee
tie rod Ptmn to knuckle DS3110
Left outer ES3096
At pitman ES3096
Tie rod V8 solid bar DS1312
Adjusting sleeves qty 2 ES2079S
Note because the lower Tierod is solid you use two of the same tierod ends instead of three different ones on the vehicle. This set up would be the same type of setup after market shops sell to "upgrade" to tougher components.