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Unread 07-21-2010, 03:48 PM   #31
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I was just about to buy a Yellow Top Optima. So much for that. DieHard Platinum it is.

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Unread 07-21-2010, 06:07 PM   #32
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I used to run the Red Top and it was a great battery, but was bought before Optima went down the tubes. Since I have switched to DieHard. I went with the Gold and not the Platinum because I don't plan on a winch anytime soon. Plus the warranty is so good that if the Gold dies because of offroad "vibrations" then I can get a new one no questions asked, or get it prorated and upgrade to the platinum.

If anyone's wondering, the warranty is 3 years full and 64 months prorated. So 100 total months of warranty, about 8 years of total warranty.
Yup! Same here. I got my Optima Red back in 2003 before the production went to Mexico. It's still goin like a champ! Holds a charge like new even after all the rough conditions it's been through. That said, too bad the quality of Optima has gone down the poop shoot.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 07:10 PM   #33
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I had an Orbital that outlasted the 8 year warranty which is unheard of here. I couldn't find another locally so I went with a Optima Red top. Been a year or so and ok so far.

Accidentally Left my lights on for 2 hrs last weekend (stupid daytime headlight law on some highways here) and the Jeep started right up. After I got home I put it on a trickle charger overnight just to make sure that it was recharged.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 07:25 PM   #34
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Just put this out there since I don't know. I got a Yellow Top Optima I winch on occassion when I go hunting trees and such out of the roads and things like that. I have never had an issue with all factory stuff only got a SRC 8,000lb winch and stero and IPOD. With all you guys having these issues with some of your big rock rigs were you using a higher output alternater? I hear that it really helps? New to the JEEP world so take her easy on me.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 08:10 PM   #35
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Optima Vs what?

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I am looking at replacing my dead battery with a Optima Yellowtop, Part Number: D34/78. Has anyone used this battery and if so, are you pleased with the performance? I am thinking with the deep cycle it would be good for winching.

Thanks, Mike
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Lots of experience with the yellow tops.
Bottom line is they do not have enought capacity for serious winching.

Sadly Johnsin Controls moved the factory from Denver to Mexico and a lot was lost in the change. The reliability wend down hill
The days when I got the employee price of $65 are now gone.
What to choose.
Sure, this thread mentions a lot of acceptable batteries. I have 4 of the Optimas still in use in my 3 rigs. Replacement will be the highest reserve amps(20 a rate) for the money. Right now the size 65 from Walmart is a good choice. Lots lead means lots of amps for the winch.
If you cannot find the spec for reserve amps use price per pound and a good guide. And never buy a flooded battery AGM is the best. As was mentyioned forget about the 6 pac and just get the sealed cube style.
Not sure the 65 can be squeezed into the Jeep, but it fits fine in both Broncos.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 09:46 PM   #36
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Just put this out there since I don't know. I got a Yellow Top Optima I winch on occassion when I go hunting trees and such out of the roads and things like that. I have never had an issue with all factory stuff only got a SRC 8,000lb winch and stero and IPOD. With all you guys having these issues with some of your big rock rigs were you using a higher output alternater? I hear that it really helps? New to the JEEP world so take her easy on me.
A higher amp alternator will help out your battery/electrical system to a certain extent. However no matter what alternator you have, it won't be able to keep up or make much of a difference when you're pulling 300-400 amps which is what a winch can suck during a heavy pull.

Many of us don't have any issues with the stock 117amp (If I recall correctly) alternator, but many do upgrade to a 160amp alternator or the like when the stock alternator breaks. A 160amp alternator would definitely be great if you have a lot of lights to run or other electrical equipment you use regularly, but for most it's really not necessary.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 10:01 PM   #37
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A higher amp alternator will help out your battery/electrical system to a certain extent. However no matter what alternator you have, it won't be able to keep up or make much of a difference when you're pulling 300-400 amps which is what a winch can suck during a heavy pull.

Many of us don't have any issues with the stock 117amp (If I recall correctly) alternator, but many do upgrade to a 160amp alternator or the like when the stock alternator breaks. A 160amp alternator would definitely be great if you have a lot of lights to run or other electrical equipment you use regularly, but for most it's really not necessary.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 10:04 PM   #38
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Just put this out there since I don't know. I got a Yellow Top Optima I winch on occassion when I go hunting trees and such out of the roads and things like that. I have never had an issue with all factory stuff only got a SRC 8,000lb winch and stero and IPOD. With all you guys having these issues with some of your big rock rigs were you using a higher output alternater? I hear that it really helps? New to the JEEP world so take her easy on me.
i just put in a 160 amp alternator out of an 04 durango with the 4.7l v8. it has an extra mount arm on it which you can cut off or leave on. doesn't contact anything so i left it be. it was a direct bolt in. even though its bigger, i still was able to use the same belt.
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Unread 07-21-2010, 10:49 PM   #39
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Sadly Johnsin Controls moved the factory from Denver to Mexico and a lot was lost in the change. The reliability wend down hill
The days when I got the employee price of $65 are now gone.

Paul
You no longer work for big blue? The employee price is now $75.00 for the yellow tops, with $17.00 shipping from Mexico. I just ordered two yellow's, we will see. Got a red and a yellow last November, no problems so far.
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