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post #1 of 11 Old 02-14-2011, 10:06 AM Thread Starter
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Dana 44HP Question

Hey gathering parts for my jeep and came across this dana 44 hp out of 70's ford front axle on craigslist for $40 bucks. Im wondering will this work in my 02 tj for my front axle already have a 8.8 for rear. thanks in advance






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post #2 of 11 Old 02-14-2011, 11:32 AM
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Can you get a definite year? '78 or '79 would be best. You may already know this, but you will be cutting everything off of that axle to install the correct TJ brackets. It is possible the axle may have to be cut down also. If you are doing all the fab work yourself, then I say it's worth $40 for at least the center section.

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Can you get a definite year? '78 or '79 would be best.
Wrong. The F150 HPD44 between 78-79 used CAST wedges, which will require retubing the entire housing. you can't cut them off, the wedges are hollow, with no tube under them. you can't weld to them cause they're cast and very weird shape.

77 used weld on wedges, and those can be cut off.

alternatively, finding a HPD44 from a F250 might work...but the WMS is 69" full width. And the F250 bolt pattern is 8x6.5, but you get massive brakes and 2.75x0.5" tubes. TJ's WMS is 60.5", with 2.5x0.25" tubes.


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Wrong. The F150 HPD44 between 78-79 used CAST wedges, which will require retubing the entire housing. you can't cut them off, the wedges are hollow, with no tube under them. you can't weld to them cause they're cast and very weird shape.

77 used weld on wedges, and those can be cut off.

alternatively, finding a HPD44 from a F250 might work...but the WMS is 69" full width. And the F250 bolt pattern is 8x6.5, but you get massive brakes and 2.75x0.5" tubes. TJ's WMS is 60.5", with 2.5x0.25" tubes.
You are correct, I should have specified. Mine is a center section from a '79 Bronco, but mine has been retubed with more HD tube and built waggy width.

Just don't want him to think that axle will be easy to "build" and throw under his Jeep if he's not building it.
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I plan on building it, would it be cheaper to buy a 44 out of a rubicon than to build this one, im going to look at it and see if the wedges are welded or not.

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You could build that axle for less than a grand if you are good at finding deals.

But even if it cost as much in the end as a rubi axle, it's still stronger.

For $40, I'd go for it.

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those are cast wedges from the looks of it.

'97 zj 5.2, some stuff, some other suff, and some things that even work sometimes.

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So if it has cast wedges would it be worth it or not?

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Wrong. The F150 HPD44 between 78-79 used CAST wedges, which will require retubing the entire housing. you can't cut them off, the wedges are hollow, with no tube under them. you can't weld to them cause they're cast and very weird shape.

77 used weld on wedges, and those can be cut off.

alternatively, finding a HPD44 from a F250 might work...but the WMS is 69" full width. And the F250 bolt pattern is 8x6.5, but you get massive brakes and 2.75x0.5" tubes. TJ's WMS is 60.5", with 2.5x0.25" tubes.

This is true, 78-79 1/2 ton Dana 44's have cast wedges and need to be retubed.

76 and 77 was the only years with weld on wedges and disc brakes.

The 3/4 ton Dana 44 is about 1" narrower than the Dana 60(about 68" I think). You can lose about 2" of width by swaping the 8 lug outers to 5 lug outers This will get you done to about 66" (still too wide). The 5 lug brakes will not work with the 8 lug Flat top knuckle.
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So if it has cast wedges would it be worth it or not?
If it comes with the hubs and brakes, YES but only for parts. The knuckles and 5 lug outers is worth $40.
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any more advice on this, thanks

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