Dana 44 VS. C Clip Eliminator? - JeepForum.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
2003X
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 5,160
Dana 44 VS. C Clip Eliminator?

Hi,

I currently run a D35 with 3.07 Gears, My question is, I can get a used Dana 44 out of a junk yard for $1000.

Currently on 4x4groupbuy, I can get a c-clip eliminator for $579.....

Superior Axle M35 Super Eliminator C-Clip Eliminator Kit 90-06 Y

Is this the kit that will fit my 2003 TJ?
Will it make my axle stronger to wheel and run 35s later on?
Other websites are offering this kit for $800+, and for another $200 I can get the super 35 kit with a locker for the same price as the used Dana 44.


Any advice will be helpful, thanks in advance.

2003X

2003X is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 02:14 PM
jeep2008
Registered User
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Rhodes/Greece
Posts: 1,735
you need this part number cause you have 27splines 4x4GroupBuy.com eyou'll need a 30spline carrier or locker.

my build thread

No Jeep right now
04TJ (SOLD)
01TJ (SOLD)
jeep2008 is offline  
post #3 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 02:16 PM
AlTheKillerr
Web Wheeler
 
AlTheKillerr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Austin
Posts: 5,051
the 30 spline chromos with the c-clip eliminator will make it stronger than a stock 44. however people will argue that the d44 R&P is alot stronger but the difference between the two is pretty small. i run a S35 with 35" tires without the c-clip eliminator and have never had a problem with it. in the future id like to get it though

also 1000 for a junkyard 44 seems like alot. a buddy of mine just picked one up that was already built with a locker for 1000

Photographer
2000 XJ, 3.5" lift, 32s, Locked
AlTheKillerr is offline  
post #4 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 02:59 PM Thread Starter
2003X
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 5,160
I figured $1000 was alot as well. I dont no what they go for used.

I would like to run the c-clip eliminator kit,

Is this the correct kit with 27 spline... Superior Axle M35 Super Eliminator C-Clip Eliminator Kit 90-06 Y ?

Does this price $580 seem reasonable for a C-Clip Eliminator?
2003X is offline  
post #5 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:02 PM
theducksguts
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Eugene
Posts: 2,987
When you say 1000 for a D44 are you talking about a TJ d44 or one out of a different vehicle> Because if it is for a TJ then you should jump on it. Tj 44's with 3.73 gears and trash lock go for almost 2 grand at JY around here. Believe me I have checked.

Last edited by theducksguts; 09-17-2009 at 03:04 PM. Reason: details
theducksguts is offline  
post #6 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:02 PM
mikesbeachhut
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: highlands nj
Posts: 592
I am a firm believer that a d-35 with upgraded axles & c clip eliminator is a very good choice but the 307 gearing is got to go.Saying that the d-44 is almost guaranteed at least 373s.D-35 Axles + c-clip + gears+ labor = more then the d-44.The d-35 to d-44 is an easyer job to swap out then to regear & install the axles & c -clip elim.Regearing is not a simple job done yourself unless you know what your doing.
mikesbeachhut is offline  
post #7 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:04 PM Thread Starter
2003X
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 5,160
Quote:
Originally Posted by gilandj View Post
When you say 1000 for a D44 are you talking about a TJ d44 or one out of a different vehicle> Because if it is for a TJ then you should jump on it. Tj 44's with 3.73 gears and trash lock go for almost 2 grand at JY around here. Believe me I have checked.
This is what the place says.. Its out of a 2003 Jeep Wrangler TJ, Spcr 44, LHD, 3.73 ratio, Rr drms Complete Assembly.
2003X is offline  
post #8 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:05 PM
never monday
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: In my own world
Posts: 6,826
your on 33's now and going to 35's?

Super 35 kit with or without c-clip eliminators. 4.56 or 4.88 gears, 4.88 preferred for 35's.
You'll need to do the front too.

Spending 1K for a 44 and then having to regear it and add a locker =$2500
never monday is offline  
post #9 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:08 PM
theducksguts
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Eugene
Posts: 2,987
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2003X View Post
This is what the place says.. Its out of a 2003 Jeep Wrangler TJ, Spcr 44, LHD, 3.73 ratio, Rr drms Complete Assembly.
I still think 1K is a killer price for a complete assembly, even if you have to re gear the 30.

I also think the C-clip eliminator is a fine idea. Some run them just fine. Others have had problems. There are monster threads about these kits. I considered one for a while. Good luck with your decision.

Last edited by theducksguts; 09-17-2009 at 03:09 PM. Reason: I don't know that
theducksguts is offline  
post #10 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:08 PM Thread Starter
2003X
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Boston
Posts: 5,160
Eventually I will be going to 35s, but not any time soon.

so still I am unsure the path to take on this, $1000 for a used rear D44, or $600 for superior super eliminator C-Clip Kit? I would have to re-gear the D44 and D30 to the correct gears, and now im into more money. Maybe the C Clip Kit is fine for now, then re-gear my D35 with the c-clip later on?

I have read multiple threads on here, and it seem 50/50. Some say go with the D44, and other says the C-Clip is just as strong as a stock D44.

Is the c-clip kit the same as the super 35 kit, just without the locker?

Is this the correct kit with 27 spline for my D35.... Superior Axle M35 Super Eliminator C-Clip Eliminator Kit 90-06 Y ?

Sorry for all the questions, I just want to do it right the first time.

Last edited by 2003X; 09-17-2009 at 03:20 PM.
2003X is offline  
post #11 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:20 PM
never monday
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: In my own world
Posts: 6,826
c-clip without Super35 kit is 27 spline cromo shafts.
never monday is offline  
post #12 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:21 PM
mikesbeachhut
Registered User
2003 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: highlands nj
Posts: 592
I found a D-44 from a 06 tj for 850 bucks installed and gave him the D-35 witch was good for me because I had no place to store the 35.I could have done it my self(did my share) but what the hell I did not have to get my hands dirty.
mikesbeachhut is offline  
post #13 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:31 PM
theducksguts
Registered User
1998 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Eugene
Posts: 2,987
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikesbeachhut View Post
I found a D-44 from a 06 tj for 850 bucks installed and gave him the D-35 witch was good for me because I had no place to store the 35.I could have done it my self(did my share) but what the hell I did not have to get my hands dirty.
Now that is a monster deal. They are just so rare around here.

With the C-Clip eliminator it comes with 27spline moly shafts and the retainer hardware that has to be mounted at the drums. There is no locker and they shafts still have the same spline count. They just don't utilize the C-clips.

Still wouldn't want to drive any distance on a broken axle. Not safe.
theducksguts is offline  
post #14 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:52 PM
Unlimited04
This post/info=my opinion
 
Unlimited04's Avatar
2004 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Colorado
Posts: 24,169
Quote:
Originally Posted by AlTheKiller View Post
however people will argue that the d44 R&P is alot stronger but the difference between the two is pretty small.
FYI:
Ring Gear Diameters -
Dana 35c = 7.562"
Dana 44 = 8.5"
Dana 60 = 9.75"
Dana 70 = 10.5"
Dana 80 = 11.25"
Source: http://www.precisiongear.com/

The jump from Dana 35 to Dana 44 is almost the same as the jump from Dana 44 to Dana 60, and from Dana 60 to Dana 70. 1" is not small when talking about ring gear diameter as it correlates to strength.

Go for the Dana 44, don't not sink money into the turd of a D35.
Unlimited04 is offline  
post #15 of 85 Old 09-17-2009, 03:58 PM
never monday
Registered User
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: In my own world
Posts: 6,826
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unlimited04 View Post
Go for the Dana 44, don't not sink money into the turd of a D35.
from you no less
never monday is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Jeep Forums Replies Last Post
Dana 35 c-clip eliminator 1st hand experience? roadsuk TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 125 04-03-2011 02:17 PM
Superior Dana 35 C-Clip Eliminator Kit Dravintoad TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 60 06-18-2010 07:28 PM
Superior Dana 35 C-Clip Eliminator Kit zbob TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 1 01-25-2010 05:22 PM
Last minute questions on Dana 35 C Clip Eliminator before purchase. ssl90 TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 2 11-09-2009 07:42 PM
Superior Dana 35 C-Clip Eliminator Kit LEONEN TJ Wrangler Technical Forum 109 02-19-2009 05:07 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome