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husbandjw 06-22-2010 04:14 PM

dana 300 swap!!
 
I am working on putting a dana 300 in my jeep. The problem I am running into is that everyone says a NP 231's front yoke will mount with no issue. I tried it and the dust cover hangs on the case and locks everything up. Any ideas?

2GPS4ME 06-22-2010 04:30 PM

Are you building a custom crawler? Any reason the NP231 is not going to be used?

never monday 06-22-2010 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by husbandjw (Post 9670584)
I am working on putting a dana 300 in my jeep. The problem I am running into is that everyone says a NP 231's front yoke will mount with no issue. I tried it and the dust cover hangs on the case and locks everything up. Any ideas?

a 1310 CV yoke for the 300

flatlander757 06-22-2010 06:34 PM

You can pull the dust cover off.

The D300 yokes front and rear(stock anyways) use the same 26 spline yokes as a D44 pinion.

New yokes are only like $50 or so if you look around.

2GPS4ME 06-23-2010 11:18 AM

Sorry nevermonday & flatlander, I just never know what kind of 'projects' people are going for on here.

D300 sounds like fun.... :thumbsup:

roundlitefan 06-23-2010 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2GPS4ME
Are you building a custom crawler? Any reason the NP231 is not going to be used?

It has always been my understanding that a D300 is a much stronger design than an NP231. It is also easy to twin stick a D300 to allow full control over the TC, i.e. you can choose the operation of both output shafts independantly, which lets you do things like use front wheel drive only.

If it gives an indication of why you would want a D300, many people will tell you that the D300 is what the design of the Atlas TC is based on.

I don't know what all goes into a swap, but I do know it involves a lot of work, since the D300 has to be flipped to be used with a stock TJ drive train.

JCWJEEP 06-23-2010 12:26 PM

D300 is gear driven, IIRC, which makes it much stronger. It can also be twin sticked and I think it may have more desirable ratios.

Ej132 06-23-2010 09:13 PM

What is a vehicle with a D300 for a pull? It would be sweet to have the twin sticks

Unknown303 06-23-2010 09:51 PM

Usage

The Dana 300 was used only in CJs from 1980 until 1986. The first year the Dana 300 was available there was a slight difference from transfercases used in '81-'86 CJs. The 1980 Dana 300 features a shorter tail housing which allows a slightly longer rear driveshaft.

Lordwrench 09-14-2010 10:46 AM

and scouts....:rtft:

Boundless 09-14-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Lordwrench (Post 10122626)
and scouts....:rtft:

and only in 1980 and it has the "texas style" bolt patern

JeepnBlake 09-14-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boundless (Post 10123267)
and only in 1980 and it has the "texas style" bolt patern

bingo, that's D20 bolt style for anyone not familiar.


Here are my links for doing the DC driveshafts:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f8/da...-links-894019/

snowrydr01 09-14-2010 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unknown303 (Post 9679283)
Usage

The Dana 300 was used only in CJs from 1980 until 1986. The first year the Dana 300 was available there was a slight difference from transfercases used in '81-'86 CJs. The 1980 Dana 300 features a shorter tail housing which allows a slightly longer rear driveshaft.


Random info time from when i was doing research for my swap (still not done though :shhh: )


A long tailshaft housing will accept the speed sensor from your np231

a flipped D300 WILL NOT fit on a 32rh (at least have never seen it successfully) because the shift rails will not clear the transmission pan.

You do have to notch the front output shift rail to be able to use FWD H only though

Why to use it: Or at least my reasons
1 why not?
2 gear driven
3 twin stickable
4 CHEAP 4:1 gears
5 almost half the size of a 231. A d300 with a box 4 rox crawl box made out of a 231 is the same size as a 231 itself

Border Dave 09-14-2010 06:59 PM

Anyone using the High Impact Dana 20 for Wranglers yet?
Quote:

Originally Posted by High Impact Transmission and Gear

Left Drop Dana 20

We offer a version of the Dana 20 all gear drive transfer case configured for use in a Wrangler, replacing the chain drive NP231 case. This case is only 11.5" long, compared to 21" for a stock NP231, making possible combinations of transmissions, underdrives and lots of lift, while retaining good driveshaft length. Available in 2.34:1, 2.46:1, 3.15 to one versions. It comes equipped out of the box with fixed CV type yoke front and rear. Versions available for either twin-stick operation or operation form factory Wrangler type shift lever.

Wrangler/Cherokee applications: With the adapter it bolts right up where an NP231 came off. We can supply a unit that will work with a stock wrangler Tcase shifter, you will need to extend your link rod, or use a piece of all thread with some heim joints. (Twin stick also doable, see the Bronco Dana 20 Data Sheet) Your vehicle speed sensor can be modified and hooked up with a short adapter cable, so your speedo and computer will work properly. You will need a CV rear driveshaft, with a slip in the driveshaft, as the D20 is fixed yoke out. We can supply a kit with all the needed parts. Your front driveshaft will need to be shortened. The Tcase is quite a bit smaller than the 231, so There are no clearance issues.

High Impact - Transfer Cases Drop Dana 20

It looks like it can also be used in conjunction with a Klune V: Klune-V_LeftDrop_D20_combo

http://www.high-impact.net/transmiss...%201%20600.jpg

How would this compare to a Dana 300?

MisfitSeven 09-14-2010 07:17 PM

dana 20s do not have the option for 4:1. they are 2:1 stock. i think you can find 3.15:1 low range, thats as low as you can go. but it has the same bolt pattern and will work.


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