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Unread 01-16-2013, 09:20 AM   #1
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Crossover steering - uptravel limiting factor?

Any of you guys running full crossover, what's the limiting factor of your uptravel?

Drag link contact with frame?

Tie rod contact with pitman arm?

Other?

Sorry to have 2 threads going (link to other one), but I figure this is a specific question, and there's more traffic here in TJ Technical.

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Unread 01-16-2013, 02:19 PM   #2
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My frame is notched to accommodate the drag link... raised trackbar gets pretty close too.
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Man I wish I had seen that before I started.
What pitman arm is that? You mention bending it, so just a stock one flattened?
No issues with the tie rod hitting it with that much drag link clearance?
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Yep, stock pitman arm. With the axle on both bumpstops, the tie rod, drag link and trackbar. All clear each other by about 1/2 inch.

Things that are not adjustable... tie rod at both ends, drag link at the knuckle.
Stuff the axle then adjust the pitman arm to keep the drag link from hitting the TR and also miss the radiator and steering gear lines... once that is set, snake a track bar through there ( parallel and same length as draglink ) do this last since you can adjust either end to make it fit.
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Any of you guys running full crossover, what's the limiting factor of your uptravel?

Drag link contact with frame?

Tie rod contact with pitman arm?

Other?

Sorry to have 2 threads going (link to other one), but I figure this is a specific question, and there's more traffic here in TJ Technical.
My WJ conversion didn't require any frame modifications...



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My WJ conversion didn't require any frame modifications...
Neither would mine, with the right amount of hockey pucks.
Have you kept the stock frame side track bar bracket? I would guess you have enough bump stop to keep that out of the diff cover?
What's first to hit on yours, as you approach full bump?

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Neither would mine, with the right amount of hockey pucks.

Now... lower the drivers side of the axle to its lower limit while leaving the passenger side on the bumpstop... then turn full right.

After that, then you can say you don't need to modify the frame...
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Neither would mine, with the right amount of hockey pucks.
I don't use hockey pucks.

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Have you kept the stock frame side track bar bracket?
Yes.

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I would guess you have enough bump stop to keep that out of the diff cover?
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What's first to hit on yours, as you approach full bump?
Nothing that has been a problem, the extended bump stop I would say....

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I'm running a waggy 44 with a flat top knuckle and high steer arm on the passenger side. I still need to notch my frame so i can get full up travel. Some people say you can flip the drag link to the bottom side of the high steer arm, but i'll probably just notch the frame to keep the drag link completely flat. But other that that its fine. Everything under there gets really close, but it clears. If you are running heims, i'd suggest putting no misalignment spacers on the drag link end because there should be enough misalignment off the heim at the knuckle end.

If you are planning on running it, i also suggest to not have anything to do with the stock track bar frame mount, Cut that thing off and start over new with an outside frame bracket and some heims.

here is a picture of mine drooped pretty far out when i was setting everything up.

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Now... lower the drivers side of the axle to its lower limit while leaving the passenger side on the bumpstop... then turn full right.
Yeah, tried this last night. That's gonna be the problem.

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Some people say you can flip the drag link to the bottom side of the high steer arm, but i'll probably just notch the frame to keep the drag link completely flat.
I tried that, there might be room with flat top 44 knuckels, but not with WJs. Thanks though.

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If you are planning on running it, i also suggest to not have anything to do with the stock track bar frame mount, Cut that thing off and start over new with an outside frame bracket and some heims.
Yep. That's gone.
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