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WKdeuce 01-16-2013 09:20 AM

Crossover steering - uptravel limiting factor?
 
Any of you guys running full crossover, what's the limiting factor of your uptravel?

Drag link contact with frame?

Tie rod contact with pitman arm?

Other?

Sorry to have 2 threads going (link to other one), but I figure this is a specific question, and there's more traffic here in TJ Technical.

Robert J. yates 01-16-2013 02:19 PM

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My frame is notched to accommodate the drag link... raised trackbar gets pretty close too.

dcope17 01-16-2013 02:42 PM

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/no...rsion-1296085/

WKdeuce 01-16-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by dcope17 (Post 14800873)

Man I wish I had seen that before I started.
What pitman arm is that? You mention bending it, so just a stock one flattened?
No issues with the tie rod hitting it with that much drag link clearance?

dcope17 01-16-2013 04:04 PM

Yep, stock pitman arm. With the axle on both bumpstops, the tie rod, drag link and trackbar. All clear each other by about 1/2 inch.

Things that are not adjustable... tie rod at both ends, drag link at the knuckle.
Stuff the axle then adjust the pitman arm to keep the drag link from hitting the TR and also miss the radiator and steering gear lines... once that is set, snake a track bar through there ( parallel and same length as draglink ) do this last since you can adjust either end to make it fit.

Knuckelhead 01-16-2013 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WKdeuce (Post 14799279)
Any of you guys running full crossover, what's the limiting factor of your uptravel?

Drag link contact with frame?

Tie rod contact with pitman arm?

Other?

Sorry to have 2 threads going (link to other one), but I figure this is a specific question, and there's more traffic here in TJ Technical.

My WJ conversion didn't require any frame modifications...

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../linakge32.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../steering6.jpg
http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...installed1.jpg

WKdeuce 01-16-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Knuckelhead (Post 14801773)
My WJ conversion didn't require any frame modifications...

Neither would mine, with the right amount of hockey pucks.
Have you kept the stock frame side track bar bracket? I would guess you have enough bump stop to keep that out of the diff cover?
What's first to hit on yours, as you approach full bump?

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...9DDE289C39.jpg

dcope17 01-16-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WKdeuce (Post 14801964)
Neither would mine, with the right amount of hockey pucks.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...9DDE289C39.jpg

Now... lower the drivers side of the axle to its lower limit while leaving the passenger side on the bumpstop... then turn full right.

After that, then you can say you don't need to modify the frame...

Knuckelhead 01-16-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WKdeuce (Post 14801964)
Neither would mine, with the right amount of hockey pucks.

I don't use hockey pucks.

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Originally Posted by WKdeuce (Post 14801964)
Have you kept the stock frame side track bar bracket?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by WKdeuce (Post 14801964)
I would guess you have enough bump stop to keep that out of the diff cover?

Yep.

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...steeriong2.jpg

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Originally Posted by WKdeuce (Post 14801964)
What's first to hit on yours, as you approach full bump?

Nothing that has been a problem, the extended bump stop I would say....

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ad/squeeze.jpg

mcannon111 01-17-2013 08:59 AM

I'm running a waggy 44 with a flat top knuckle and high steer arm on the passenger side. I still need to notch my frame so i can get full up travel. Some people say you can flip the drag link to the bottom side of the high steer arm, but i'll probably just notch the frame to keep the drag link completely flat. But other that that its fine. Everything under there gets really close, but it clears. If you are running heims, i'd suggest putting no misalignment spacers on the drag link end because there should be enough misalignment off the heim at the knuckle end.

If you are planning on running it, i also suggest to not have anything to do with the stock track bar frame mount, Cut that thing off and start over new with an outside frame bracket and some heims.

here is a picture of mine drooped pretty far out when i was setting everything up.

http://i1081.photobucket.com/albums/...18CBAA53ED.jpg

WKdeuce 01-18-2013 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by dcope17 (Post 14801990)
Now... lower the drivers side of the axle to its lower limit while leaving the passenger side on the bumpstop... then turn full right.

Yeah, tried this last night. That's gonna be the problem.

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Originally Posted by mcannon111 (Post 14804658)
Some people say you can flip the drag link to the bottom side of the high steer arm, but i'll probably just notch the frame to keep the drag link completely flat.

I tried that, there might be room with flat top 44 knuckels, but not with WJs. Thanks though.

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Originally Posted by mcannon111 (Post 14804658)
If you are planning on running it, i also suggest to not have anything to do with the stock track bar frame mount, Cut that thing off and start over new with an outside frame bracket and some heims.

Yep. That's gone.


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