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Unread 07-20-2014, 09:05 AM   #1
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cranked while engine is running=BAD!

I got back in the jeep and forgot I had left it running. I tried to crank our 99 sport and it was already cranked. Of course it only took me a millisecond to realize it, but it was too late. I cant remember if I heard that sound and I was beside a loud backhoe so I probably wouldn't have heard it.

Now nothing happens. It wont crank, the gauges don't move, the lights don't come on. Is it a fuse? If so what fuse? My Husband checked the little fuses and they all appear good. He doesn't know how to check the fuse for the starter.

My husband asked me how itstopped? He was trying to determine if it just cut off on its on or did turn it back with the ignition. But I don't remember exactly. My husband asked me if it made that noise but I was by a loud backhoe .

What will happen if the engine is running and the ignition key is turned?

I have seen many people do this before with no repercussions. I have done it in my Ford before with no problem I don't know what happened?

Any and all help appreciated.

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Unread 07-20-2014, 09:59 AM   #2
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hit the starter with hammer... may be stuck
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Unread 07-20-2014, 10:46 AM   #3
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It wont crank, the gauges don't move, the lights don't come on. Is it a fuse? If so what fuse? My Husband checked the little fuses and they all appear good. He doesn't know how to check the fuse for the starter.

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Don't hit the starter! the lights not coming on and no guage movement points to a different problem.
Do you have BRIGHT headlamps? domelight? or all dead?
check your battery connections and battery state of charge (voltage); should be above 12v . ideally 12.6 for fully charged battery.
this just sounds like you may have a fully discharged or disconnected battery at the moment. if you don't have any testlamp or voltmeter/multimeter to check- then just boost with another vehicle or connect a charger.
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Unread 07-20-2014, 11:15 AM   #4
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Yes hit it... The solenoid can get stuck in between where it suppose to be. And that causes the power to be like you describe.
Since you bound up the starter recranking it.. That is why I say that is the issue.
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Unread 07-20-2014, 12:09 PM   #5
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When the armature bushings get worn the armature can become out of alignment. When tapping (not pounding!!) it can free the armature and the car will start if this is the issue. Tap the starter and have someone turn the key and see if it starts. Not rocket science
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Unread 07-20-2014, 01:04 PM   #6
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Wow I came back to this post and was delighted to see all the help.

My husband has already check the voltage and got 12.1 on the posts but only 9.3 on the cable connection He said that should be the same.
He had already tried to jump the starter. He told me he had put screws drivers across the engine.(or something like that)

Now I am going to go tell him to hit (gently tap) the starter.
Thanks Y;all!
I will keep you posted!
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Unread 07-20-2014, 01:08 PM   #7
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If there is 12 volts on the battery posts and 9 volts at the battery clamps the problem may be the clamps. Take the clamps off and clean the inside of them and the posts and see what happens. If the cables are bolted to the clamps take them apart and clean there, too.
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Unread 07-20-2014, 01:19 PM   #8
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JC people all this happened as a result of a OOPS... So only thing that oops could have changed is the throw of the solenoid. Battery was fine before and cables all fine. Maybe marginal but fine.
And yes tap it of hit it lightly, again for those that lack common sense enough to know not to hit it VERY hard. Its a electrical component.

Golden jeep explained it in more detail.. Sometimes explaining it to folks goes way over head. So hit softly is all they need to know.
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Unread 07-20-2014, 01:27 PM   #9
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My husband was in the midst of cleaning the connections when I went to tell him to gently tap the starter. He never even had to try to strike the starter because cleaning the connections worked.

I told my husband " SO IT WASN'T SOMETHING I DID!!!! "I was hoping he would say it was just a coincidence. He replied " you probably put UNDO pressure on the starter.... blah blah etc etc"

We don't drive it much, just a few minutes each weekend on our farm. He keeps battery tenders on our backhoe and trackloader. I wonder if we should keep a battery tender on it.

Thanks everyone!
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Unread 07-20-2014, 01:33 PM   #10
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JC people all this happened as a result of a OOPS... So only thing that oops could have changed is the throw of the solenoid. Battery was fine before and cables all fine. Maybe marginal but fine.
And yes tap it of hit it lightly, again for those that lack common sense enough to know not to hit it VERY hard. Its a electrical component.

Golden jeep explained it in more detail.. Sometimes explaining it to folks goes way over head. So hit softly is all they need to know.
So much for it being an oops. Chill out dude. Suggestions are always welcome, getting bent because someone doesn't take your idea as the gospel of truth isn't.

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My husband was in the midst of cleaning the connections when I went to tell him to gently tap the starter. He never even had to try to strike the starter because cleaning the connections worked.

I told my husband " SO IT WASN'T SOMETHING I DID!!!! "I was hoping he would say it was just a coincidence. He replied " you probably put UNDO pressure on the starter.... blah blah etc etc"

We don't drive it much, just a few minutes each weekend on our farm. He keeps battery tenders on our backhoe and trackloader. I wonder if we should keep a battery tender on it.

Thanks everyone!
Glad to hear you got it sorted out and it was an easy fix.
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