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post #1 of 24 Old 04-12-2012, 10:55 PM Thread Starter
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Control Arm Upgrade from stock; yes or no?

Hey guys! Need your opinions!

Finally getting to replace my current lift (Trailmaster 4" lift) that was installed by my Jeep TJ's previous owner back in 98'. Needless to say the current springs/shocks are DEAD but this is my toy so its hardly driven except around the block in its current condition. That's about to change!

I went ahead and purchased Currie Springs 4" and Rancho RS9000XL shocks. It has the stock control arms but before I go ahead and replace the springs and shocks I'm debating whether or not to invest in control arms while I'm at it. Note; I live in South Florida so I won't be doing any rock climbing so flexing capabilities are not really necessary. To be honest this Jeep will not be doing any major off-roading either. At one point I had considered JKS control arms or Currie Control Arms because i have been told they are one of the best but now debating whether or not the investment is necessary based on what I'm going to be using the Jeep for!


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post #2 of 24 Old 04-12-2012, 11:16 PM
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For sure I would swap out the stock arms with a 4" lift! no question asked, and after all the research I did when looking at my control arm upgrade I would go Currie thats what I did

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Doesn't sound like you really "need" them. Might be time to replace them just due to age though. A set of Currie's at $1000 sounds a little overkill for your application but would be incredibly nice. There are many other options out there, that would also work just fine for you, but since this is JF..... if it has anything other than a Johnny Joint on both ends it's garbage! Even for completely flat South Florida! Good luck with it though!
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Doesn't sound like you really "need" them. Might be time to replace them just due to age though. A set of Currie's at $1000 sounds a little overkill for your application but would be incredibly nice. There are many other options out there, that would also work just fine for you, but since this is JF..... if it has anything other than a Johnny Joint on both ends it's garbage! Even for completely flat South Florida! Good luck with it though!
Really, so 4" of lift and stock arms is ok? You don't need to adjust things at that lift height...? Adjustable arms aren't a must? Yah, you don't need them if you want your Jeep to be a vibrating mess. Your driveline would be so out of wack.
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Really, so 4" of lift and stock arms is ok? You don't need to adjust things at that lift height...? Adjustable arms aren't a must? Yah, you don't need them if you want your Jeep to be a vibrating mess. Your driveline would be so out of wack.
He's already running a 4in lift and didn't mention any of that?? Most low end 4inch lifts only include lower arms, stock length.

The ever popular lower end 4 inch lift with a t-case drop is probably all this guy will ever need for what he said the jeeps going to be used for.

Crazy I know...
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Okay, so now you know that there are strong feelings for both sides of the debate. Let's consider the factors:

1. Flat Florida and limited wheeling = minimal articulation needed. (let's face it, the curbs at the mall just aren't what they used to be.)
2. 4" of lift DOES alter your drive line, so you will need to compensate with either a transfer case drop and/or adjustable control arms in order to adjust the pinion angle to compensate for the 4" of lift.

I would go ahead and consider the adjustable control arms to make sure your drive line is good, but I would not buy the most expensive CA's out there just because someone on JF says. (JeepinJeffrey also lives in Utah, not far from Moab, so he has a totally different application for his Jeep than you) You can get cheaper CA's that will do the job just as well for you as the more expensive ones and put the saved cash towards other upgrades to pimp your ride.

Function over form will always win out. Your Jeep will still operate very well, and you will be able to spend your hard earned cash on other things that will make your Jeep stand out.

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Thanks for all your opinions! I like hearing all points of views!

My TJ has a transfer case drop installed by the previous owner/lift. I agree with Igrok's on "function over form" so will most likely consider changinging the control arms in the near future. I like doing things as best as possible. Other than Currie or JKS what other adjustable CA's do you recommend for my mall crawling application?

Another thing. I still have the original oem body mounts on there. Do those go bad after a while and need replacing? Do they sell the oem body mounts or should I consider replacing oem's with a 1" body lift? Note my TJ is a 98 with low miles for its age.

Steering stabilizers; I like the dual stabilizer look but have heard it can ruin your hydraulic steering pump? Fact or myth? I will be running 33's.

Any other suspension mods you guys recommend or parts you think need replacing?

And one more thing...I bought 33x12.5R17's for my wife's JK but she is now pregnant so will keep stock wheels/tires on there for now. I originally wanted to get 15's for my TJ because I like the more rubber less wheel look for the TJ's but considering using them for my TJ. What 17" wheels do you think will look good on 33's on a TJ? Any pics you can attach would be awesome!

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Shock relocation brackets? Should I get some?
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IMO, you're too tall for stock arms. I'll refrain from providing my opinion of what you should go with since all it will do is bring out the monkeys.

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You can check into Rubicon Express Superflex arms. I just ordered a set or rear UCA's from mudflaps.com for $188. They also have adjustable arms with rubber bushings on both ends.
Don't do the dual ss setup. I have heard it can mess up steering due to too much resistance.
There are threads in the pics request forum for 33"s on 17" wheels.

Also, most 1" body lifts are pucks that sit on top of the existing body mount. There are options for full mount replacement, though.

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Shock relocation brackets? Should I get some?
Yes, I installed my 4" currie lift and needed a set since they were hitting.
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IMO, you're too tall for stock arms. I'll refrain from providing my opinion of what you should go with since all it will do is bring out the monkeys.
LOL... to tall is right. you dont need a 1000$ currie set just somthing to get you bye w/o any drive line issues.

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There's a new option, Metalcloak Duroflex: A related thread.
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IronMan adjustable control arms any good? They seem reasonably priced!
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There's a new option, Metalcloak Duroflex: A related thread.
I'm currently looking into these as well, I am still debating between these now and curries since my rig is going to be used more as a trail vehicle and not so much rock cralwer.
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