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Unread 09-18-2011, 07:20 PM   #1
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Control Arm Joint Orientation

Hey,
I don't know much about suspension geometry so I want to ask you guys. This picture is taken on flat ground/ Is it ok that the control arm joint be tilted like that? My guess is that under flex this could cause binding and that ideally the joint should be straight when on flat ground, but I want to make sure.

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it will bind under flex like that
it is best to have it staight you can do this by loosing the jam nut & turning it untill it looks staight ( & hold the joint when you retiten the jam nut
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What kind of joint is on the other end of the arm?
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it will bind under flex like that
it is best to have it staight you can do this by loosing the jam nut & turning it untill it looks staight ( & hold the joint when you retiten the jam nut
Depends on what's on the other end of the arm and without knowing that, you can make no judgements.
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What kind of joint is on the other end of the arm?
looks like Johnny Joints to me
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both ends are johnny joints. They are savvy control arms. The other end is not orientated the same way, I will correct them so that both ends have the same orientation. That way they should have the most freedom to rotate any direction.
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both ends are johnny joints. They are savvy control arms.
Then as long as the joints are oriented the same on each end it is completely normal. Don't worry about it.
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Depends on what's on the other end of the arm and without knowing that, you can make no judgements.
well yes u r righ if they both ends
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both ends are johnny joints. They are savvy control arms. The other end is not orientated the same way, I will correct them so that both ends have the same orientation. That way they should have the most freedom to rotate any direction.
Loosen the jam nut, rotate the joint bodies back against the side of the mount that that will stop them from turning when you tighten the jam nut and then tighten away. That sets both joints perfectly in alignment with each other and after that, don't worry how they ride.
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Loosen the jam nut, rotate the joint bodies back against the side of the mount that that will stop them from turning when you tighten the jam nut and then tighten away. That sets both joints perfectly in alignment with each other and after that, don't worry how they ride.
K, thats what i figured, it doesn't much matter that they are centered but that both ends have the same orientation.
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K, thats what i figured, it doesn't much matter that they are centered but that both ends have the same orientation.
If you had balls of steel, would you care about your orientation?
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