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Unread 06-28-2010, 05:03 PM   #1
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Clutch problem

Ok. Ive used the search and am more confused than when i started. Ever since I got my jeep (2002 TJ 5spd) i can hear a little rattle when in neutral that goes away when i press the clutch. I've read that its just the throwout bearing, and Ive read that its not.

Today I went to work, everything is normal. When I go to leave, the pedal feels funny, like the cylinders are going. It still drives fine but the point where the clutch engages seems a lot closer to the floor than it was. I checked the clutch fluid level and its fine. I also noticed that my rattle when in neutral has gone away. Oh and the clutch creaks from underneath when I press the pedal (been doing that for a couple months)

I have no idea what this could be. Any help would be most appreciated.

I did read someone had the throwout bearing come apart and stopped the pedal going down as far so I'm wondering if that's it?

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Unread 06-28-2010, 05:11 PM   #2
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If your throwout bearing came apart, it would look like this.





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Unread 06-28-2010, 05:26 PM   #3
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WOW. any way of checking without pulling the tranny or would I hear the parts rattling around in there still? Apart front the creak when I press the clutch, theres no bad noises at all. Its actually quieter than its ever been.
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Unread 06-28-2010, 07:29 PM   #4
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Ok Just took it for a drive and it seems fine except for the point where the clutch engages seems lower, probably about 1/3 to 1/2 of the way up from the floor and the pedal feels a little softer too. I guess if its working I should just not worry about it? I'm just kinda anxious because we're supposed to go wheeling this weekend.
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Well, there is no way to check anything inside the bellhousing without removing the tranny. The pedal travel difference is due to something changing which altered the amount of fluid required for operation. It's needing to travel farther (longer stroke) to do the same job it's been doing, and the longer stroke means that it's moving more fluid. Simple hydraulic theory, in the most elementary sense.

Why? I'm not able to say with certainty what's causing it, but it would be best to thoroughly diagnose the issue before wheeling.

My money is on the throwout bearing, based on your descriptions.

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Unread 06-29-2010, 06:20 AM   #6
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I guess I know what Im doing tonight Any Idea how long it'll take? I'v replaced a bunch of clutches (mostly on FWD cars) but never on a Jeep. And its been a long time since the last one.
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At least for me, jeeps are a lot easier than fwd cars. With the right tools, you can drop the tranny quick. No complications, about an hour and a half. But i have a lift...
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I have them out in an hour & a half in most cases. I pull the T-case & tranny separately. Many people pull them as 1 unit, it seems to not make a lot of difference time-wise but just personal preference.

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Pulling the t-case makes the trans easier to manhandle back in if you do it in your driveway
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Pulling the t-case makes the trans easier to manhandle back in if you do it in your driveway

Cool I was gonna try that because I'm doing it by myself and I figured the only problem I'll have is wrestling the tranny/t-case back in. Splitting them will definatly help. Thanks for the help guys Im a lot happier now I know it doesn't take 12hrs like someone else told me.
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