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Unread 02-08-2006, 03:54 PM   #31
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I've got some $10 offroad lights from northern similar to what you have now, but they are a few years old and still work fine. They throw out quite a bit of light, and if they get smashed or stolen I'm not out much $. The cheap plastic cover fits loose so I just zip tied it. Two wires from light, two wires for switch, two fuses, relay, and switch.



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Unread 02-08-2006, 04:06 PM   #32
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Not having to go through the cab and back out could make them a tad bit brighter and your dash less likely to ignite.

I dont understand this.

wires from lights -> relay -> firewall ->switch -> fuse

yes?
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Unread 02-08-2006, 04:17 PM   #33
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The first curcuit runs power from the battery to a fuse, to switch, to relay, to ground.

The second curcuit runs power from the battery to a separate fuse, then relay, then lights, then ground.

When you flip the switch on the first curcuit, it energizes the relay and the relay is what turns on the second curcuit that the lights are wired to. That way the full amperage of the lights is not running through the switch to cause a potential fire hazzard. You could just skip the relay and just wire the lights through the switch and probably be ok, but it's not recommended unless the switch is heavy duty and the wiring is thick enough. A pair of 60watt lights is about 10 amps.
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Unread 02-08-2006, 05:19 PM   #34
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im lost by this.

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Unread 02-08-2006, 05:25 PM   #35
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Gawd I need to take a basic electrician's course.

When I figure this out, and I will, Im going to publish a step-by-step guide to wiring lights for a TJ.

So it is written, so it shall be done!

:shakes fist at angry Gods:
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Unread 02-08-2006, 06:53 PM   #36
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here are a few diagrams that might help ya




EDIT: added the last one
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Unread 02-08-2006, 11:41 PM   #37
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Check these out on ebay

Thinkin bout gettin some of these for the windshield or put them on the bumper and put the KCs on the windshield
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWA%3AVRI:
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Unread 02-08-2006, 11:48 PM   #38
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is it possible to see some nite pictures. i am in the market for lights and don't want to spend a fortune
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Unread 02-08-2006, 11:53 PM   #39
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These cheap northern lights put out the same light as your high beams. Not quite as evenly patterned as the headlights, but still plenty bright.
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Unread 02-09-2006, 08:22 AM   #40
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More ebay cheapies...

KC look-a-likes - they got em in black and also chrome housings.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...AFSEL%3AUS%3A1
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Unread 02-09-2006, 09:19 AM   #41
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Thinkin bout gettin some of these for the windshield or put them on the bumper and put the KCs on the windshield
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...K%3AMEWA%3AVRI:
put the kc's on the window, and the regulars on the bumper.
my next set of lights will go on the window, and ill go all out when i buy those!
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Unread 02-10-2006, 02:38 PM   #42
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i was talking to a co-worker who happens to be an electrician, and he said that there is no risk of fire or melting things as long as:

1. the lights amps < the amps of the fuse slot you choose to plug in.
2. the switch amp rating > the inline fuse.
example.
my lights amps are 8.3
the switch is rated at 30 (so its fine)
the inline fuse is 10 (so it blows before the fuse box or the switch)
the slot where i pluged the lights into the fuse box is 25 (so you dont burn up any factory wiring behind the fuse box)

(so, besides the lights, the inline fuse should be the weakest link...if things get hot the fuse goes and protects the fuse box and switch)
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Unread 03-03-2006, 07:10 PM   #43
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I got the same lights from Northern

wired them all up on saturday/sunday

I used a lot of wire ( doesn't come with the lights )

I used a lot of connectors ( didn't come with lights either )

I used 4 relays ( nope, not included )

and the switches ( still not included )

but all in all I installed 8 lights + 2 headlights =

I have 4 of the Northern SRS 7" lights up front
Slyvania Silverstar headlights
and 4 Northern lights in the rear bumper

Here are some pics ( not the best pics, the battery was about dead on the camera, but at a glimpse. )
dscf2246-small-.jpg   dscf2247-small-.jpg   dscf2248-small-.jpg  
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Unread 03-03-2006, 07:18 PM   #44
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i was talking to a co-worker who happens to be an electrician, and he said that there is no risk of fire or melting things as long as:

1. the lights amps < the amps of the fuse slot you choose to plug in.
2. the switch amp rating > the inline fuse.
example.
my lights amps are 8.3
the switch is rated at 30 (so its fine)
the inline fuse is 10 (so it blows before the fuse box or the switch)
the slot where i pluged the lights into the fuse box is 25 (so you dont burn up any factory wiring behind the fuse box)

(so, besides the lights, the inline fuse should be the weakest link...if things get hot the fuse goes and protects the fuse box and switch)

Don't forget melting the fuse block itself could be a problem. I did this many years ago by holding the high beam lever (turn signal) in a position where both the high and low beams were on for an extended period of time. Yes, I saw better in the fog. Yes, it melted my fuse area.
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Don't forget melting the fuse block itself could be a problem. I did this many years ago by holding the high beam lever (turn signal) in a position where both the high and low beams were on for an extended period of time. Yes, I saw better in the fog. Yes, it melted my fuse area.
man, talk about ruining your day.... that would suck
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