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Unread 01-28-2010, 11:26 PM   #1
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Champion 3 row aluminum radiator (review)

So after 150k miles my stock radiator started leaking and started the search for a new radiator. Now as a background I did have some problems over heating, but only with the worst of the worst situation like doing 3k rpm at 75mph in 105 degree heat with the A/C on. So I figure in order to counter that I'd like an upgraded radiator instead of the stock OEM replacement.

I've looked around on here for hours and have seen someone bought a Silla 2 row aluminum radiator and I liked it but the thing that sold me on the Champion one is that the fill neck is billet welded and not stamped in. Also I saw that it was mentioned on here that 3 row is bad... but I took the chance anyways.

After putting it in and replacing coolant, hoses, and thermostat (stock temp 195) I drove it around for a few hours down the freeway and all around town and the temp stuck around 10degrees cooler according to the stock temp gauge with mechanical fan. So far it seems to be working good.

Along with the radiator, I also got an electric fan and hooked that up yesterday it turns on at 200 and off at 180 and seems to work awesome hoping for better highway milage but I'll find out soon.

(last time I posted pics they were blocked to lower members I apologize for all the links)

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The welds are actually pretty nice looking.

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Picture of the mounts that I made, they fit quite well.

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The mounted fan

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Another of the mounted fan

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The switch that is a "manual off" I will be adding a "manual on" and a LED light to show when the fan is on or off.

And heres a link to an album with the rest of the pictures
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Unread 01-28-2010, 11:46 PM   #2
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Picture of the mounts that I made, they fit quite well.





The mounted fan





Another of the mounted fan





The switch that is a "manual off" I will be adding a "manual on" and a LED light to show when the fan is on or off.

And heres a link to an album with the rest of the pictures
Radiator pictures by sergeantspud - Photobucket

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Unread 01-29-2010, 12:16 AM   #3
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looks good, most poeple don't report an imporvement in MPG when they switch to an electric fan, but that's good you're getting better cooling.

When I was still searching for an electric fan people stressed how important a fan shroud was, but I guess you may not need one, however if you over heat in the future that would be the first thing I'd trouble shoot... other than failure of course.
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Unread 01-29-2010, 12:29 AM   #4
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Well hoping for my highway milage to go up... with the fan off and no mechanical fan taking power from the engine.

And I kept my mechanical fan just in case
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I have a 2 speed Taurus and I actually have to run it on high on the free way when it's summer
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Unread 01-29-2010, 12:57 AM   #6
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That kind of doesnt make sense...? the fan can blow maybe 50mph but an incoming air flow of 60mph? I dont know specific mph of the fan but it cant be more than high way speed?
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Unread 01-29-2010, 07:50 AM   #7
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i'm really interested to see how this turns out. glad to see some improved cooling, keep us updated on the electric fan and the efficiency.

looks like the clearance between the water pump and the electric fan is pretty tight - any issues there?
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And I kept my mechanical fan just in case
That's good because I suspect when summer gets here and the freeways get hot, you'll be reinstalling it.

As far as your air speed comment, it's not difficult at all to get air moving much faster than you are capable of driving your rig.

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Unread 01-29-2010, 09:45 AM   #9
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looks like the clearance between the water pump and the electric fan is pretty tight - any issues there?
Yea the clearance is very tight, around 1/2 inch but no issues as of yet.
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I have a 2 speed Taurus and I actually have to run it on high on the free way when it's summer
I have a flex-a-lite and any mph over 30 mph it shuts off. If you have to run your electric fan @ hwy speeds even in the summer you might have an issue somewhere in the cooling system. In the summer and on the freeway and with A/C on the fan might stay on a mile or so after I approach hwy speeds. I dont know what a Tarus fan pulls cfm wise but mine is 3300 and I never have any problem. I also tow a 1500 load sometimes and it is fine. Somekind of shroud is very important for air flow at slow speeds.
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Ebay fan? I just put the same one in. Did those mount brackets come with the radiator?
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Unread 01-29-2010, 04:25 PM   #12
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Yep an ebay fan, I actually got this deal...
Champion radiator and fan from ebay

2500cfm sounded good to me. And the picture on the listing shows mounts coming with the fan but none came in the package so I just made some from some small square tubing.
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Unread 01-29-2010, 04:38 PM   #13
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Nice, where's the shroud? Not many know how incredibly important the shroud is to proper cooling since it forces air through the radiator and prevents the air from just spilling off the tips of the fan blades. Poor cooling/hotter running engines are often nothing more than a damaged/torn shroud, let alone one that isn't even there.
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I zip-tied mine to my radiator shroud. I need a new radiator soon though. I think I will follow your lead on that one bc it looks pretty nice. Zip ties are so easy though lol.
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What was the cost of the radiator?....
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