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Unread 08-12-2010, 12:28 PM   #1
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Catalytic converter question

What all does the dealer sell when you buy a catalytic converter for a 98 Jeep Wrangler, 4.0L with 5spd manual? I need a new catalytic converter for my jeep and when I called the dealer to get an idea, I was quoted $1098 yet I've seen them for quite a bit less in the past. Is this a full exhaust all welded and ready to bolt in or just a catalytic converter?

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Unread 08-12-2010, 12:36 PM   #2
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That is WAAYY more expensive than it needs to be for just one catalytic converter. What they quoted you for was probably for the entire exhaust system tubing and all. I would go to a custom muffler shop and get them to cut out your bad cat and weld in a new one. That should only run you $100-$200.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:10 PM   #3
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You can try this too if you want to do it yourself.

Direct-fit Catalytic Converters for 49 States - JCWhitney
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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:14 PM   #4
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What all does the dealer sell when you buy a catalytic converter for a 98 Jeep Wrangler, 4.0L with 5spd manual? I need a new catalytic converter for my jeep and when I called the dealer to get an idea, I was quoted $1098 yet I've seen them for quite a bit less in the past. Is this a full exhaust all welded and ready to bolt in or just a catalytic converter?
I just paid $85 for a universal fit and $40 to have it installed. This is for the cat above the skid. There are 2 other cats in my 01, maybe in your 98. They are up stream closer to the motor. Maybe that price also included them. Still way too high I would think.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:18 PM   #5
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rockauto.com has a set for my jeep that includes the two pup cats at the collector, and the big cat by the muffler all for $400ish.

Check it out. Screw the dealer.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:21 PM   #6
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That is WAAYY more expensive than it needs to be for just one catalytic converter. What they quoted you for was probably for the entire exhaust system tubing and all. I would go to a custom muffler shop and get them to cut out your bad cat and weld in a new one. That should only run you $100-$200.
Yeah, I that's what I was thinking too.

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Direct-fit Catalytic Converters for 49 States - JCWhitney
Only problem with that is they don't want to sell to California customers, which is what I am. :/

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I just paid $85 for a universal fit and $40 to have it installed. This is for the cat above the skid. There are 2 other cats in my 01, maybe in your 98. They are up stream closer to the motor. Maybe that price also included them. Still way too high I would think.
From what I understand, it's the complete pipe from the header flange to the muffler flange and everything in between. I like the idea of going to a muffler shop and having them weld a new one on, which is originally what I was planning on doing, but wanted to get an idea on the cost of the CAT, so called the dealer knowing that a muffler shop would be cheaper. But wasn't expecting that high of a price.

Thanks all.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:25 PM   #7
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they want $340 for this, but it's listed for an '02, I can't find a '98 listing.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:42 PM   #8
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My 99 only has the one cat, above the skid, and only a single downtube off the manifold.

I belive the twin cats like the one pictured came in 2000 with the dual-outlet exhaust manifold.

I don't know what "california emissions" would have had in 98 - it might be different from my 99 Massachusetts model.

Do you have the part number that they quoted you the $1000+? I'm sure someone here could tell you what it is from that.

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Unread 08-12-2010, 01:44 PM   #9
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they want $340 for this, but it's listed for an '02, I can't find a '98 listing.
That definitely looks like a dual outlet exhaust like Pete mentions below.

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My 99 only has the one cat, above the skid, and only a single downtube off the manifold.

I belive the twin cats like the one pictured came in 2000 with the dual-outlet exhaust manifold.

I don't know what "california emissions" would have had in 98 - it might be different from my 99 Massachusetts model.

Do you have the part number that they quoted you the $1000+? I'm sure someone here could tell you what it is from that.

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I'm gonna have to call them back for it. Will post it up when I get it. Definitely an expensive OEM part.
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Unread 08-12-2010, 02:34 PM   #10
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My 98 has the single cat above the skid. I'd say go to a shop and have them weld in a new one. California sucks about emissions. I get pissed about Lake county emissions testing when most all the counties around us have absolutely none. I'd hate to live in Cali.
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I ordered and am in the process of installing a new cat setup from Eastern Catalytic. It's a direct OE replacement and for my '05 looks very similar to the pic above but also has the new 3rd at separate. Comes with clamp also. I've got it bolted up right now which seems to be a good solid fit and just loose-fit the 3rd cat. Getting ready to cut the old pipe I pulled out and fit it to the spintech here shortly-had to take a break for a bit. It's a high-flow setup, complete and ran $371 with free shipping from parts and accessories.com or usaauto parts-whatever they call it. It had a cat refund program that came with it to return my old setup for a refund. After searching around a bit and calling them, I decided it wasn't worth it for the $10-20 they'd send you back in a month. I think I may get the torch out and cut the old ones up to see how they look inside instead. Better get back out there and finish fitting then weld it up.

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I got the CA approved cat from Napa for $159 (with my discount) I think it's normally $169 plus $40 to get it welded on at a local muffler shop.
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they want $340 for this, but it's listed for an '02, I can't find a '98 listing.
Yup should only be in 2000 models and up with the two piece exhaust manifold. I got mine for $200 from Davico.
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Yup should only be in 2000 models and up with the two piece exhaust manifold. I got mine for $200 from Davico.
Nope. Some 2000 4.0L TJ's came OEM with the 2 piece manifold without the mini cats, like mine did...
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Nope. Some 2000 4.0L TJ's came OEM with the 2 piece manifold without the mini cats, like mine did...
Lucky! Don't have to worry about extra cats or the O2 sensors for 'em. I swear... Your TJ is the most unique one out there and is an exception for everything
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