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post #1 of 19 Old 07-22-2010, 07:11 PM Thread Starter
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Can't get front LCA axle mount bolts off!

I am in the process of installing my RK lift. All has gone relatively well until now. I can't seem to get the LCA lower axle mount bolt to exit the bracket/mount. The nut is off but there is heavy resistance--springs back like a rubber band--when attempting to turn it in either direction. As if the bushing is seized to the sleeve. It will by no means beat out either. I am having the same issue w/ both driver's & passenger's sides. I have been @ this for over an hour. PB Blaster, CRC Freeze Off have had no affect.

Is my only option to cut the whole arm & bolt out & pray that a local dealer has replacement bolts in stock? Any input/recommendation is greatly appreciated!


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post #2 of 19 Old 07-22-2010, 07:23 PM
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The bushing has a metal sleeve in the middle which has nipples that pinch the bolts in place. The rubbery rebound would be that sleeve holding the bolt in place as the rubber around it absorbs the impact.

You may want to remove the control arm from the frame to give you more to work with. To be honest I think I had to press mine out with a c clamp set up. Get a deep socket that will fit loosely over the bolt head and use a c clamp to press it loose.

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I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post
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Yeah I've attempted removal w/ both the frame mount disco'd & attached; no difference. On the passenger side, I was able to get full swings w/ the 5lb beater as there was no pumpkin to interfere; the actual bracket mount began to deform w/ still no progress to the bolt removal . . .

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Also, not sure of your exact situation, but I'd remove and install one at a time. If I recall, when I removed both uppers on my front the axle rotated on me adding a little more to the mix. Not really sure if taking both lowers out would let the axle rotate without looking at it.
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I can't remember if it was the uppers or lowers, but I definately had to press out one of them. Try a good sized c clamp.

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I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post
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Could be the bolt is seized/rusted in the sleeve (duh). I ran into this with a track bar awhile back. Ended up getting the sawsall out and cutting the bolt and the bushing. Bolts are easy to find if your town has a half way decent hardware store.

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when in doubt.... torch it out!
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I had this same issue with my tbird. The bolt was seized to the inside sleeve of the bushing. I tried a bunch of things with no success. Broke a couple C-clamps trying to press it out. Mini sledge and a punch didn't work, nor did my Snap On air hammer. Lastly I tried the torch, held it cherry red for a few minutes, didn't work, the rubber burned and the bolt stayed.

I ended up cutting the bolt between the bushing and bracket on each side with a hack saw.

Hopefully you have more success! They can be pretty stubborn when corroded.
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Ok, so I called my local dealerships this morning & have just picked up the ONLY 2 OEM replacement LCA axle mount bolts in the St. Louis metro area. After a quick bite to eat, I will head back out to the garage, give it one more college try w/ a clamp, & then if that fails I'll cut'em w/ the saw'zall & use the replacement hardware. Hopefully, I don't encounter this problem in the rear as I have already inquired about the rear hardware & there is ZERO stock for any of those . . .

Thanks, for the fast & helpful input!

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I find it helps to manipulate the axle height/orientation with a jack to try and find the sweetspot that takes pressure off of the bolt. Good luck, stuck bolts suck!

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but i would try to find the sweet spot FIRST!!
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I had to cut the bolts on mine between the control arm and bracket. You can find similar bolts and nuts at your local hardware store Ace, Home Depot, ect no need to run down to the stealership.
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Put your spare tire jack under the nose on the axle housing where its pinion shaft exits and jack it up just a skoshe to take the pressure off the control arm bolts. The axle is very likely pushing down on those bolts pretty hard. I had to get those control arm bolts out Sunday and I didn't even try pushing them out until I jacked the nose of the axle up just a tiny bit to take the pressure off them.

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Put your spare tire jack under the nose on the axle housing where its pinion shaft exits and jack it up just a skoshe to take the pressure off the control arm bolts. The axle is very likely pushing down on those bolts pretty hard. I had to get those control arm bolts out Sunday and I didn't even try pushing them out until I jacked the nose of the axle up just a tiny bit to take the pressure off them.
What he said. I just put my front axle back in, and went through the same thing you did but with the upper arms when taking it out. play around with the axle height, get pressure off the joints and they should just slide out.
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I had my old axle out of the Jeep with the control arms on it and still couldn't get the bolts out. Those things can get pretty stuck.

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I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post
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