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Unread 04-26-2012, 08:42 AM   #31
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From between the splined output shaft visible in that image and the seal meant to hug the outer spline shaft that's missing. Behind that harmonic dampener (which I don't have, btw) is the seal and bearing. The seal has a gap between its inner diameter and the output shaft, meant to be taken up by the internally splined tube attached to the ujoint yoke on the driveshaft itself. Illustrated in the pictures in this thread:

http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f37/n...eak-fix-82091/

It's a different tailshaft housing, but the idea is still the same. What you see there isn't completely sealed. Prove me wrong. It's entirely possible. But I don't think so. It's entirely possible that the design changed to remove that tailshaft and place the seal directly into the speedo sensor housing seen behind the harmonic dampener, and that's what I learned way back in the day. The old style cases WILL leak oil through the bearing and those splines. Quite possible that it won't leak from the newer style. Meh.
How funny that you link a YJ issue to a TJ case....

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Unread 04-26-2012, 09:34 AM   #32
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Why are people arguing on a dead thread brought back by a smiley?

EDIT: Even if it is about trees (now that I read closer)
Because it's really important.

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It doesn't, if there is no one around to interpret the vibrations caused by the tree into sound, they are just vibrations, not sounds.
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It does.

Sound is a physical movement, you don't have to hear it for it to exist...
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Of course it makes a sound. The fact that no one is there to hear it, doesn't mean the sound wasn't produced, just that it wasn't heard...
So does hearing something mean that a sound was produced? What about hallucinations, hmmmm?

As A.E. said, it's relative to your frame of reference. Do you ascribe to definition one or 2 below?

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noun
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the sensation produced by stimulation of the organs of hearing by vibrations transmitted through the air or other medium.
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mechanical vibrations transmitted through an elastic medium, traveling in air at a speed of approximately 1087 feet (331 meters) per second at sea level.
I say that for it to be "sound", then it must contain both of the above elements, not merely one or the other:

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Sound is a mechanical wave that is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas, composed of frequencies within the range of hearing and of a level sufficiently strong to be heard, or the sensation stimulated in organs of hearing by such vibrations.
If there is no one to hear it, then it there is no sensation stimulated in organs; no sound.

If there is no mechanical wave, then there is also no sound even if a person imagines having heard something.

BTW, I've just removed AKGeo from my ignore list. I've decided that his input can be very entertaining, much like watching a train-wreck in 3-D slow motion; you know you should look away, but can't, and not very useful, but fascinating none-the-less.
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Unread 04-26-2012, 02:59 PM   #33
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If there is no one to hear it, then it there is no sensation stimulated in organs; no sound.

BTW, I've just removed AKGeo from my ignore list. I've decided that his input can be very entertaining, much like watching a train-wreck in 3-D slow motion; you know you should look away, but can't, and not very useful, but fascinating none-the-less.
Don't quit your day job.

And don't hold your breath waiting for that train wreck...
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Unread 04-26-2012, 03:06 PM   #34
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Because it's really important.







So does hearing something mean that a sound was produced? What about hallucinations, hmmmm?

As A.E. said, it's relative to your frame of reference. Do you ascribe to definition one or 2 below?



I say that for it to be "sound", then it must contain both of the above elements, not merely one or the other:



If there is no one to hear it, then it there is no sensation stimulated in organs; no sound.

If there is no mechanical wave, then there is also no sound even if a person imagines having heard something.

BTW, I've just removed AKGeo from my ignore list. I've decided that his input can be very entertaining, much like watching a train-wreck in 3-D slow motion; you know you should look away, but can't, and not very useful, but fascinating none-the-less.
Why would you ignore him to begin with? I see the entertainment value watching him step on his manhood regularly.
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Unread 04-26-2012, 05:36 PM   #35
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Ive been doind that with my zj for about a year the dumb automatic 4 wheel switch kept turning on the 4 wheel drive on the high way... sooo out the front driveshaft went
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Unread 04-26-2012, 08:42 PM   #36
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i went to double double cardan and when i removed my t case drop i removed the drive shafts and didn't put the front back in.
So your C/V'd rear is adequate with a 6.5" lift?

I can go double cardan on front, remove my drop tcase brackets, and my rear C/V will still be cool with my 4" ?? Ive never lifted over 2.5, (on a Wrangler) and had not heard this.
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Unread 04-26-2012, 08:49 PM   #37
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Infra red trees

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Why are people arguing on a dead thread brought back by a smiley?

EDIT: Even if it is about trees (now that I read closer)
Thanks for the great answers ...

I searched cause Ive never had a Wrangler without manual Hubs. I wasnt sure... Had to laugh, at the , (trick question comment) and its now about Physics and clever play of words..

We dont truly see the rays that heat the Blind mans body nor do we actually hear a tree when it falls silently in the woods.


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