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post #1 of 61 Old 07-16-2010, 03:00 PM Thread Starter
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Cam bolts on rear control arm ??????

I need new cam bolts for the rear upper controll arms on my
heep , I called jeep and every auto parts store around and they all seid they didn't come that way ? Now I got this jeep
used with a lift allready so maybe they were added after but my 2003 rubicon cam with the cam bolts in em too , so my questin is did they come from dc with the bolts and if so where can I get them ?


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People say to stray away from cam bolts because they come out of adjustment easily. If you want to re-align your pinion angle, grab some rear upper adjustable control arms from currie with johnny joints, they are about 250.00 but well worth the investment.
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Are you saying that both of your Jeeps have/had rear cam bolts? Are you sure?

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cam bolts on the rear uppers are to be avoided. BIG PITA.


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I think my rubicon had them but now I'm not sure but my 97 has them I talked to sme
buddies and none of them have them so the po musta had them put in I'm taking them out tomorow

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I think my rubicon had them but now I'm not sure but my 97 has them I talked to sme
buddies and none of them have them so the po musta had them put in I'm taking them out tomorow
Do your control arm brackets have slots cut in them?

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No TJ ever came with cam bolts for the rear control arms. Cam bolts only came on the front control arms for a few years, up until around '99.

Installing rear cam bolts for the rear control arms would be a bad idea. Not only are they very difficult to get installed, they don't like to stay in adjustment. I have known more than a few that ended up having to weld the rear cam bolts they installed in place so they wouldn't keep moving out of adjustment.

If you need to adjust your pinion angle, and are you sure you need to(?), I would install adjustable length control arms. Uppers alone will do the job, lowers alone are not recommended. Installing both upper and lower adjustable length arms is ideal but not really necessary.

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I dnt want them they were n there when I bought it the guy had dne sme weird thing to set the pinion angle like the cam bolts and he lowered the front of the t case skid and not the back I was just worried that if I didn't put them back in it would be bad for the angle

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No TJ ever came with cam bolts for the rear control arms. Cam bolts only came on the front control arms for a few years, up until around '99.

Installing rear cam bolts for the rear control arms would be a bad idea. Not only are they very difficult to get installed, they don't like to stay in adjustment. I have known more than a few that ended up having to weld the rear cam bolts they installed in place so they wouldn't keep moving out of adjustment.

If you need to adjust your pinion angle, and are you sure you need to(?), I would install adjustable length control arms. Uppers alone will do the job, lowers alone are not recommended. Installing both upper and lower adjustable length arms is ideal but not really necessary.
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I kno you all are syaing they never came that way and that is what the jeep dlr is saying but they are there the brackets have slots in them and lil nubs on the sides to hols the washer in place maybe this was some weird half year modle experament or smething but whatever the case they are there and the brakets are sloted for them so I don't kno what to do I can't find them anywhere to replace the borken one

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(Once again) The factory NEVER installed cam bolts in the rear axle's control arm mounting brackets. The brackets did indeed appeared to be ready for cam bolts to be installed and a few aftermarket companies came out with cam bolt kits for them but they never worked out because people found they wouldn't hold their adjustment (I am experiencing deja vu here).

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Dude why are you such a ****** ? I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post :-)

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Dude why are you such a ****** ? I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post :-)
I b wundrin somtin... Did you attend public school(s) by chance?

Anyway, as to a solution at this point, let's play "pick a fix":

1. Weld additional material to the upper CA brackets to eliminate the slots.

2. Replace the upper CA brackets.

3. Buy new rear cam bolts: Pinion Cam Bolt Kit, Rear, Skyjacker*SJ-CAM500 by the Jeep Specialists | Morris 4x4 Center

I'd pick solution #2 if it were me...

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Yea I never could spell no matter what school they sent me to and thanks I was thinking new brackets I just didn't want to sink any more money into the 35 then I allready had , thanks again

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Dude why are you such a ****** ? I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post :-)
Please, for the love of God, spell check your posts from now on.

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I know your rite I seid the dealer seid the same thing as you and that I don't want them there , but I was asking another qeustin as in what do I do about the slots in the brackets couse if I just put a bolt in there it will slide back and fourth but again thank you all knowing and powerfull jeep god sorry us lesser jeep peeons might have some more qeustins in the future , so please if there to much for you sit back relax go to the next post
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