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Unread 08-31-2011, 06:12 AM   #196
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Thanks! So, if I've already corrected (extended) the bumpstops for my spring/shock setup to prevent them from bottoming out, I can add a 1.25" BL and go up 1" in tire size (31s to 32s) without requiring any further extension to the bumpstops?

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Unread 08-31-2011, 09:03 AM   #197
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Bumpstops are extended for three reasons. Preventing dampers from bottoming out, coil over compression and tire/fender contact.

A bodylift has no bearing on shock or coil compression. For what you're wanting to do, adding a 1" BL gains tire/fender clearance. The upper shock mounts are attached to the frame not the body. Your rear bumpstops will be extended to prevent the shocks from bottoming out, and couldn't care less how high you lift the body off the frame.
this is how a BL can help with shock length/bumpstop.....
with the body raised the rear upper mount can come up through the factory hole 1" reducing the required bumpstop length by 1".
1" is all you can get away with tho.

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Unread 08-31-2011, 11:15 AM   #198
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Hey nice pic!
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Unread 08-31-2011, 12:11 PM   #199
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Thanks! So, if I've already corrected (extended) the bumpstops for my spring/shock setup to prevent them from bottoming out, I can add a 1.25" BL and go up 1" in tire size (31s to 32s) without requiring any further extension to the bumpstops?
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this is how a BL can help with shock length/bumpstop.....
with the body raised the rear upper mount can come up through the factory hole 1" reducing the required bumpstop length by 1".
1" is all you can get away with tho.
Nice... Why not just OB the dampers?
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Unread 09-01-2011, 09:28 PM   #200
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^^^ Cause it was a brand new rust free frame that I didnt want to start hackin on. I would have added another week to my driveway frame swap and THAT could not happen(its my DD).

In the future when I buy another DD and the Tj becomes my toy, then the rear outboarding mod WILL happen. this was just a quick, easy, bolt on solution to gain another inch of uptravel and run 4" shocks on a 2.5" lift spring.(key words-BOLT ON!-)
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Unread 09-01-2011, 09:32 PM   #201
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Mudb8-when you use the terra brackets like I have, is there any way to relocate the lower mount so that I can use the same 10" travel shock(or mabey a 12"), tuck the lower mount out of the way, and avoid all this talk of shock binding?

Will it actually help to relocate the lower shock mount? Will I gain anything doing that?
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Unread 09-14-2011, 04:15 PM   #202
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I have a related question.
Have 98 Tj w/ 3" Teraflex spring lift, lower UCA's, bumpstops, all installed by PO.
I am replaceing the shocks w/ the Bilstein 5100's, because the ride flat sucks on street bumps, washbaord roads..
I am looking at the 5100 series vehicle specific for “98 Jeep TJ w/ 3” spring lift…
Part #’s 24-185257(FR) BE5-2731-H5, and # 24-185264(R) BE5-2732-H5 are specified for this particular application. FR(C=14.88/E=24") RR(C=14.63/E=23.07).
I was thinking of getting the 4" lift application shocks for additional downtravel and adding additional bumpstops to protect the shock B/O. 4" shocks FR(C=14.98/E=24.63) RR(C=15.41/E=25)..
Therefore the additinal difference in travel is FR=+.53" RR=+1.15".
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Unread 09-14-2011, 09:24 PM   #203
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Well you'd be losing an 1"+ of uptravel in the rear. That's a personal question. I wouldnt want to loose ANY uptravel cause thats just 1 more inch soaking up the bumps and washboard that your driving over.

IF you had a BL then you could run the Tera uppers in the pic above and not have to change your BS's at all.
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Unread 09-15-2011, 12:06 AM   #204
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So is that pic by Mud8 showing the terra upper mount? If so, does anyone know if it fits ranch 9k shocks. I'm way over due for new shocks and would like to know if it that mount would fit and articulate fine. I guess I'd have to find the equivalent Ranch # for a non bar-pin style shock if it works? 1" would be great for me.
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Unread 09-15-2011, 07:44 PM   #205
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Yeah the pic is of the Tera relocators. You have to run at least a 1" BL to run the relocators. In the pic mud posted I had to grind the "washer" off the skyjacker shock body that the dust boot hooks to so that the shock could move freely around the inside of th bracket.

IDK about the Rancho's but I just ordered Skyjacker Hydros for a 4" TJ lift and put the bushings in but not the bar pins. It is nice to have the extra 1" of uptravel from a BOLT ON bracket.
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Unread 10-24-2011, 05:41 PM   #206
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this is how a BL can help with shock length/bumpstop.....
with the body raised the rear upper mount can come up through the factory hole 1" reducing the required bumpstop length by 1".
1" is all you can get away with tho.

What kit is that? I have a busted bar pin in the rear of my Heep because the previous owner decided to remove the bumpstops all the way around for some reason...

I started another thread about bump stops trying to learn some more information, and got directed to this thread.

Here's what I'm running currently:

4" short arm lift, plus 3" body lift, Smittybilt tube fenders front and rear, D30 front, and 8.8 rear, 35x12.50 tires.

I want to run the Rancho 9000XL shocks all the way around, and I was planning on basing my purchase based on Savvy's websight recomendations. I'm fairly certain I'm going to need shock shifters for the rear axle, and I currently only have the factory Bells/Cups that the bump stops are supposed to be installed into.

Is that enough info for you to make a recomendation on shock lengths, and bump stop lengths? I would like to achieve maximum up and down travel for both axles, and I've got quite a bit of clearance front and rear already.

Thanks for the help!
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Unread 10-25-2011, 05:53 PM   #207
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I guess everyone unsubscribed from this thread???
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Unread 10-25-2011, 07:01 PM   #208
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What kit is that?
did you read the post directly above yours?

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Yeah the pic is of the Tera relocators. You have to run at least a 1" BL to run the relocators. In the pic mud posted I had to grind the "washer" off the skyjacker shock body that the dust boot hooks to so that the shock could move freely around the inside of th bracket.
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Unread 10-25-2011, 07:17 PM   #209
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did you read the post directly above yours?
I knew he was trying to give you something to do.

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Unread 10-25-2011, 07:18 PM   #210
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did you read the post directly above yours?
No, sorry, this thread is very confusing, I've tried to read through it a couple of times, but so many people were bickering that I gave up. I just need some bump stops, my Jeep doesn't have any at all right now thanks to the previous owner. I'm running a 4" suspension lift, with a 3" body lift, and tube fenders front and rear, so I have plenty of tire to fender clearance. The shocks I'm running right now appear to have about 3.5 to 4" of up travel before bottoming out, and the drivers side rear bar pin broke and the shock is just bangining around right now. I want to fix the rear shock upper mount, and prevent it from breaking again. The pic I commented on looked like it would give me a bit more up travel in the rear.

I started another bump stop thread, and was directed here and for me to delete my thread, so that's what I did.

I'm not wanting to spend hundreds of dollars on bump stops, I just want to get some to help protect my bar pins from breaking. But better bar pins or upgrades to them interests me as well.
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