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eplumer400 05-22-2013 07:43 AM

Body Mount Rust Issues
 
I know I'm beating a dead horse, but I want to confirm what I should do because there are a lot of people who have said to go about this certain ways.

I am having rust issues with the front two body mounts on either side of my '97 TJ. The middle two look like they're just collapsing while the front two where your feet go are completely rusted out. I have no experience welding nor do I have a welder, so I'm trying to find a solution to this that will involve as little welding as possible. Now I went to http://www.classicent.com/jeep.php and found the "Under Floor Torque Box Body Supports for all TJs", and while it looks like it's the piece I need, $625 for both sides is a little pricey for me at the moment. And also, if I do go ahead with the Classic Enterprise pieces for this, will I still have to weld them in? Or are those extra holes that aren't for the body mounts enough to secure them?

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Pic order: Driver side front mount, driver side middle mount, driver side rear mount, passenger side middle mount, passenger side front mount.

Jeepsr4me 05-22-2013 07:55 AM

Start looking for a tub, much cheaper than what you about to try. Plenty of them down here for less than 500. And get this no welding when you do it that way.

Ohiojeepguy 05-22-2013 09:46 AM

I second the new tub. Mine looked just like yours so I got a new tub for 300. If your tub is rotted that bad, there are most likely spots you can't see that are bad too

eplumer400 05-22-2013 09:55 AM

How tedious of a job is replacing the tub?

Jeepsr4me 05-22-2013 10:56 AM

I did it in a one car garage. Pretty dang simple. Tip, pull jeep in front first so you can haul the body out without having to move jeep. Body is not that heavy but its a 4 man deal or a larger engine lift. I had the later. Got it on sale. Or if you got a large tree.
Electrical harnesses will need to be disconnected. And the steering(tie the wheel to the column so it dont turn and tear up the clock spring) trans fer every thing from yours if tub dont come with it. A weekend deal for most. Get CANS of BPblaster and soak away. Get cutting disk and cut all the bolts that just dont want to come out. Only like 12 or 9 bolts hold the body to frame and another 20 or so to the fenders. I would leave the fenders attached to the frame. They have a lot of crap their holding and just more work to remove them.
Be prepared to go to hardware store and get new bolts. Yours are more than likely fired. Buy some Por15 so when you do get the body off you can clean and paint the frame to keep rust away. Can even Rino line the bottom of your New tube to stop some of those issues.

eplumer400 05-22-2013 05:12 PM

Would I have to get the exact year of my jeep or could a 98 or 99 work as well? It would help with looking for a tub.

Jeepsr4me 05-22-2013 08:35 PM

Any year TJ will work... I put a 2005 on a 1998

splumer 05-23-2013 12:41 PM

Upon further reflection, and after seeing the condition of all of the mounts, I agree replacing the tub might be the best idea. Plus, assuming we get a no-rust tub, we can apply rustproofing to it, and do whatever we need to do to the frame and anything else underneath. (such as the fuel pump)

Anyone in the area willing to help? ;)

Ohiojeepguy 05-23-2013 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by splumer
Upon further reflection, and after seeing the condition of all of the mounts, I agree replacing the tub might be the best idea. Plus, assuming we get a no-rust tub, we can apply rustproofing to it, and do whatever we need to do to the frame and anything else underneath. (such as the fuel pump)

Anyone in the area willing to help? ;)

I'm an hour south of you, give me enough of a heads up and I will help. Not a pro mechanic by any means but I have replaced my tub

splumer 05-24-2013 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ohiojeepguy (Post 15471821)
I'm an hour south of you, give me enough of a heads up and I will help. Not a pro mechanic by any means but I have replaced my tub

Thanks, that'd be awesome! Dunno when we're gonna do it, though. Even if you can't physically be here, coaching electronically would be appreciated too.

cattailgal 08-19-2013 01:52 PM

'74 Jeep tub?
 
I bought a '74 Jeep that looked great, but the body is badly rusted. I'm told a floor pan will not help, that I need a new tub. Where would I look for a used tub? New, they aren't cheap.

Thanks,

KC

idiot magnet 08-19-2013 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cattailgal (Post 15812070)
I bought a '74 Jeep that looked great, but the body is badly rusted. I'm told a floor pan will not help, that I need a new tub. Where would I look for a used tub? New, they aren't cheap.

Thanks,

KC

Put a wanted ad in the wanted ad section on as many forums as you can find and put an ad on craigslist or buy a fiberglass tub.

williambmac 08-21-2013 05:31 PM

I went the classic enterprise route on my old tj. Driver side mounts were rotted out pretty bad.
Since I didn't have access to a spot welder, I used heavy duty rivets( required the use of an air riveter) and heavy duty 3m epoxy.
Took an afternoon of my time. Easier than swapping out the tub in my book.

Griff1918 08-21-2013 07:03 PM

The only rust I have on my jeep is in that rail and it where one of the factory bolt that holds the Rubicon stock rocker on.


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