Been having the death wobble and already read through the forums - JeepForum.com
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 01:05 AM Thread Starter
Willu
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: College Station
Posts: 133
Been having the death wobble and already read through the forums

I know no one wants to read about the death wobble but i've tried a lot to try and stop it but have been getting strange results.

First i took it to a place and they said my tires were out of balance. They balanced them and the death wobble was lessened. When it started up again I took it to another place. They said it was the track bar so i paid for that and it didnt fix anything. I take it back to them and they replace the bushings in my control arms. The fix lasts for about a month then it starts up again. I take it to another place and they do the dry steer test and everything (yes i also did the test before i took it to places) the place said that it was my control arms. I buy metal cloak control arms, they install it and now my death wobble is worse than ever. They say that my tie rods are totally fine and i myself dont see any play either... Im wondering if my tires are to blame. Maybe out of round?

Since ive had the death wobble for almost 2 years i would assume that my tie rod ends are shot but like i said i see no play... So is there a way i can look at my tires to see if they're the problem?

Willu is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 01:08 AM
gmfcma
Registered User
2016 JK Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Orlando
Posts: 103
do you have a buddy with the same bolt pattern?
if so see if he will put your tires on his and see if it follows

2014 Unlimited Red Rubicon
2002 TJ Sport
1998 TJ SE (beater)
gmfcma is offline  
post #3 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 01:10 AM Thread Starter
Willu
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: College Station
Posts: 133
Ah thats a good idea. But just so we're clear if i were to buy the currie heavy duty steering it would not fix the problem if my tires were the culprit?
Willu is offline  
post #4 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 01:45 AM
Speedymcracer01
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 663
The tires are just the trigger to a death wobble. When you change tires it may seem to have fixed the problem when really all you did was take away the trigger that starts the death wobbles.DW's are in the suspention including everything from ball joints to your steering shaft from the steering wheel to the gear box.If all your suspention/steering components are fine you could just be having speed wobbles from tires that are out of round,MY tires don't usually trigger my DW until I've done had them awhile and they have snapped bands in them "causing the dimples on the side walls"
Speedymcracer01 is offline  
post #5 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 03:30 AM
photontraveler
Old Dude
 
photontraveler's Avatar
1996 XJ Cherokee 
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Delaware
Posts: 176
Try this temporary cure: drop your tire pressure to 15-20 lbs until you figure it out. This has worked for me and other friends and it won't cost you a cent.

"Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it tougher for sober people to own cars."
photontraveler is offline  
post #6 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 05:05 AM
JEK3
Web Wheeler
 
JEK3's Avatar
2006 LJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Fredericksburg
Posts: 1,646
Did you also try rotating your tires, fronts to rears?

I know tires are not the ultimate cause of DW, but if you can reduce the number of times you get DW your suspension components will last longer while you try to figure out what's causing it.

The Currie HD steering MAY fix your DW, but only if your old steering was the problem.

It sounds to me like your problem is with the axle-side upper control arm bushings (same problem I have). When the first shop replaced your bushings, they probably didn't touch these, as they are on the axle itself and are a PITA to replace. The new other bushings effectively masked the problem until they broke in a little bit. When you switched to aftermarket CAs (which, I believe, have poly bushings instead of rubber), that actually enhanced the problem (again, the axle-side uppers were not replaced as they are not attached to the CAs).
JEK3 is offline  
post #7 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 05:21 AM
SlackJaw
baby jeep
 
SlackJaw's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tulsa
Posts: 5,239
Good points about the uppers...if the axle side booshings weren't replaced, then you're not done yet.

I assume they checked the hubs and ball joints, as it seems they were thorough. Let me ask you this, are you suspension lifted? If so, is your front axle centered by means of an adjustable track bar or relocated mounting?

Can you afford the car? Have I provided you all the information you need on the car? Do you like the car? Then buy the car.
SlackJaw is offline  
post #8 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
Willu
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: College Station
Posts: 133
Yea i have 4 1/2 inches of lift right now and my UCAs are stock... I did have an adjustable track bar but a shop took it off because they said it had some play in it. I have it with me and there is a little crack in the bushing so i guess thats what they were talking about. The adjustable track bar is BDs so they said that i cant get a replacement bushing for it. So at a temporary fix they gave me a ome track bar which i have right now
Willu is offline  
post #9 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 12:15 PM
SlackJaw
baby jeep
 
SlackJaw's Avatar
2004 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tulsa
Posts: 5,239
Quote:
Originally Posted by Willu View Post
Yea i have 4 1/2 inches of lift right now and my UCAs are stock... I did have an adjustable track bar but a shop took it off because they said it had some play in it. I have it with me and there is a little crack in the bushing so i guess thats what they were talking about. The adjustable track bar is BDs so they said that i cant get a replacement bushing for it. So at a temporary fix they gave me a ome track bar which i have right now
well I had a thought process going, but I think I'm going to step back on it, as I continue to become enlightened on the wobbz and am still doing some additional testing myself to learn more about it.

Off the cuff, I'd say if the new lower arms made a noticeable improvement, but it came back, and the uppers are factory installed, then that would be a good place to start.

Can you afford the car? Have I provided you all the information you need on the car? Do you like the car? Then buy the car.
SlackJaw is offline  
post #10 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
Willu
Registered User
2005 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: College Station
Posts: 133
My birthday is coming which means that some money is coming my way sooooo... i should look into just changing the bushings in the control arms first? I wana try my tires on someone elses jeep but i dont have too many jeep friends here yet
Willu is offline  
post #11 of 11 Old 09-10-2013, 01:52 PM
tj120
Registered User
2001 TJ Wrangler 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: clark pa
Posts: 88
i had death wobble a few years back. the first time it was just the fact that the front tires were toed in 3/4 of an inch. the second time about a year later my steering stabilizer went bad and that was the only cause. im running a custom 6 inch long arm that i built myself in my shop and its always been smooth down the road other than those two times. to bad you are so far away, i would offer to look at it for you. i own a repair shop in pa so im not much help.
tj120 is offline  
Reply

Tags
death wobble , help please

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the JeepForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid e-mail address for yourself.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome