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post #16 of 54 Old 07-07-2011, 08:36 AM
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33s? Just use Spicer's. They're generally the cheapest, too, around $50 a side.
And what would you recommend for 35's? Just curious-spicer is all I've ever used.

Is poly even making their joints for the 44/30 yet? Seem's they've kinda been "in production" for a while now. Thought the 60's were available but not the smaller ones... Not that I'm going to switch, just curious.

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post #17 of 54 Old 07-07-2011, 04:23 PM
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How many miles in 6 months?

Unless you're putting over 80,000 miles on the XRF's on 35's, they aren't exactly what I would consider heavy duty. In fact if you call XRF and ask them, they will tell you to expect about 35-40,000 on 35's.
I've only put about 5000 on them since replacing them.

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I have heard nothing but good reviews about the poly performance ball joints. So back in April I ordered a set from Quadratec. To make a long boring story short.....they are still on back order!! That is after they were promised by the 2nd to 3rd week of June, and then beginning of July. Now it is several more weeks. Anyway I can not wait any longer I need to get a set now. I am heading to the Adirondaks in a week and I still need to install a new set of tie rods, ball joints, steering stabilizer, and get it aligned before I go.

So here is my question.... Does anybody have suggestions on another make of ball joints? I have an 05 TJ with 33x12.5 tires and a 4" suspension lift.

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I installed NAPA Premium Lifetime ball joints on mine. they're made by Dana/Spicer and carry a lifetime warranty through NAPA. Somewhere over 10k miles on them w/ 33s and still going strong.
x2, they're a bit spendy but the lifetime warranty makes that easier to swallow. I would be interested to know if they have a tire size cap on that warranty though, I'll have to ask next time I'm in there. A lot of NAPA's ultra premium parts are of excellent quality.

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And what would you recommend for 35's? Just curious-spicer is all I've ever used.
I ran Spicers with 35s for 50k miles of the 90k miles that they lasted. Just put in a new set of Spicers with the WJ stuff earlier this year.

I don't really see a use for heavy duty ball joints unless you're one that pushes the limits of a Rubi 44 with 37s or something. Even then, like Blaine said, they evidently arent expected to last very long anyway.

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I ran Spicers with 35s for 50k miles of the 90k miles that they lasted. Just put in a new set of Spicers with the WJ stuff earlier this year.

I don't really see a use for heavy duty ball joints unless you're one that pushes the limits of a Rubi 44 with 37s or something. Even then, like Blaine said, they evidently arent expected to last very long anyway.

Yeah, I don't agree with running 37's on a Rubi 44 anyway and 35's would be the absolute limit I'd run. Just kinda curious as the "heavy duty" joints sure don't seem very "heavy duty" when compared to spicers that seem to last so much longer anyway... They're cheap, and they last-how can you beat that? Thanks!

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Yeah, I don't agree with running 37's on a Rubi 44 anyway and 35's would be the absolute limit I'd run. Just kinda curious as the "heavy duty" joints sure don't seem very "heavy duty" when compared to spicers that seem to last so much longer anyway... They're cheap, and they last-how can you beat that? Thanks!

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Let me put it this way Mike, when I swapped in the half set of XRF's and wanted to put another set on the shelf to keep around, I bought a full set of Spicers from the above link. To me, if I'm going to spend the time that it takes to do a balljoint job, I'm going with a known quantity.

I know Moog sucks, I know Spicer doesn't and I don't know how long the XRF's will last in a Jeep nor can I find anyone with enough mileage to know either.

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I agree, spicer is a little uncool, not all "wow, look what I got", and kinda dull, but you dont want exciting and envyous, you dont want expensive, you want reliable and not going to kill you when going downhill at 80 mph.

Spicers got your Jeep this far, how much further do you want to go
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Let me put it this way Mike, when I swapped in the half set of XRF's and wanted to put another set on the shelf to keep around, I bought a full set of Spicers from the above link. To me, if I'm going to spend the time that it takes to do a balljoint job, I'm going with a known quantity.

I know Moog sucks, I know Spicer doesn't and I don't know how long the XRF's will last in a Jeep nor can I find anyone with enough mileage to know either.

Well... since it was my Jeep that half set of XRF's went into, I now can report how long XRF's last on a set of 35's with a couple of moderate wheeling trips and 2 severe wheeling trips. 3865 miles. The XRF's are shot... the Spicer with probably 75K on the other side is just fine. Oh and yah... now I have death wobble for the first time ever in this Jeep after 117,000 miles and almost 14 years.

To say the XRF stuff sucks would be an understatement.

I haven't called yet and intend to but does anybody know if the Poly' are available for the TJ yet? I can only find applications after 07 on their site.

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Well... since it was my Jeep that half set of XRF's went into, I now can report how long XRF's last on a set of 35's with a couple of moderate wheeling trips and 2 severe wheeling trips. 3865 miles. The XRF's are shot... the Spicer with probably 75K on the other side is just fine. Oh and yah... now I have death wobble for the first time ever in this Jeep after 117,000 miles and almost 14 years.

To say the XRF stuff sucks would be an understatement.

I haven't called yet and intend to but does anybody know if the Poly' are available for the TJ yet? I can only find applications after 07 on their site.
Yep, Chris's are shot to. We've got to swap a set of something into his. It won't be Moog and it won't be XRF.

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Well... since it was my Jeep that half set of XRF's went into, I now can report how long XRF's last on a set of 35's with a couple of moderate wheeling trips and 2 severe wheeling trips. 3865 miles. The XRF's are shot... the Spicer with probably 75K on the other side is just fine. Oh and yah... now I have death wobble for the first time ever in this Jeep after 117,000 miles and almost 14 years.

To say the XRF stuff sucks would be an understatement.

I haven't called yet and intend to but does anybody know if the Poly' are available for the TJ yet? I can only find applications after 07 on their site.
Whoa-snap! Darnit, that really sucks! Had to sensor myself a bit there, wow that is pretty sad.

I THOUGHT I'd heard rumor of someone receiving a set of the Poly joints who had ordered several months back, but forget where I saw that now. For the price though-they better be dang good to pass up the Spicers.

Sorry for your troubles-this is not fun.

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Damn, Going to check my XRF's tonight. Have about 5k and quite a few wheeling trips. Poly Performance shows the TJ/LJ PPM-4120 avalible. http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-26182.html

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Damn, Going to check my XRF's tonight. Have about 5k and quite a few wheeling trips. Poly Performance shows the TJ/LJ PPM-4120 avalible. http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/...s-p-26182.html
Thanx for the linky

The thing I never liked about the XRF's is that they do not appear to be fully seated. The taper does not seem to allow them to fit flush against the C.

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Yep, Chris's are shot to. We've got to swap a set of something into his. It won't be Moog and it won't be XRF.
Well, Keerist!! Under 200 miles on my XRFs and I see fail on the horizon. 80K on the OEMs with 31s then, maybe maybe 5K with 33s and an additional 20K on 35s. The OEMs failed at over 115K.



Mine is a DD and a "once a month" warrior. I am going to go ahead and get an additional set of Spicers on hand and watch the Poly Performance's reviews.

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Well... since it was my Jeep that half set of XRF's went into, I now can report how long XRF's last on a set of 35's with a couple of moderate wheeling trips and 2 severe wheeling trips. 3865 miles. The XRF's are shot... the Spicer with probably 75K on the other side is just fine. Oh and yah... now I have death wobble for the first time ever in this Jeep after 117,000 miles and almost 14 years.

To say the XRF stuff sucks would be an understatement.

I haven't called yet and intend to but does anybody know if the Poly' are available for the TJ yet? I can only find applications after 07 on their site.
Yikes that Sucks ***... I have XRF's in mine, but I'd bet less than 4K miles since I installed them (I don't keep real good track but 2-3K/year is about average). Probably need to give mine a good check over and grease.

I blew out a set of Moogs in just a couple thousand miles, so won't be buying them again.


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