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Unread 05-21-2006, 05:02 PM   #1
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Getting a serious wobble on the highway at speeds greater than 60 mph and am pretty sure it's due to tire balance. I am going to get them balanced and wondered if its good to go to a jeep dealer, local mechanic, or tire specialist (discount tire direct). Does it matter? Also the last person that balanced them (according to someone on this forum) counter balanced them, what does this mean? Does it matter?

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Unread 05-21-2006, 06:19 PM   #2
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Take them to any place you like. The trick is to make sure and watch the guy balancing them. After he sticks the weight on you need to make sure he spins up the tire again and the display shows 0 0 meaning no more weight needed. Sometimes they skip this last step and thats where you have a problem.
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Unread 05-21-2006, 06:48 PM   #3
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Take them to any place you like. The trick is to make sure and watch the guy balancing them. After he sticks the weight on you need to make sure he spins up the tire again and the display shows 0 0 meaning no more weight needed. Sometimes they skip this last step and thats where you have a problem.
That's what the guy did when he did mine the first time. What is counter balancing? Also how hard is it to balance steelies?
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Unread 05-21-2006, 07:52 PM   #4
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was i the guy that mentioned it?

basically if the weights are not literally touching each other(as in right next to each other) its counterbalanced. Since most of the time big tires call for lots of weight they dont make a single weight that big=solution is to just add 2+ smaller ones together.

i agree to watch them, i work at discount and if someone is an *** or comes in with a dually truck at close....lets just say you will change your habits quick if you want it done right.

and a tip will always make me go above and beyond for someone.

and make sure there the rims/tires are clean. I cant tell you how many times people want there muddy tires balanced b/c it viberates. Mud can throw it way off.
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Unread 05-21-2006, 07:55 PM   #5
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was i the guy that mentioned it?

basically if the weights are not literally touching each other(as in right next to each other) its counterbalanced. Since most of the time big tires call for lots of weight they dont make a single weight that big=solution is to just add 2+ smaller ones together.

i agree to watch them, i work at discount and if someone is an *** or comes in with a dually truck at close....lets just say you will change your habits quick if you want it done right.

and a tip will always make me go above and beyond for someone.

and make sure there the rims/tires are clean. I cant tell you how many times people want there muddy tires balanced b/c it viberates. Mud can throw it way off.
So what is the negative effect of counter balancing? Also should I mention I don't want them counter balanced? And if counter balancing is bad then why would they do it in the first place?
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So what is the negative effect of counter balancing? Also should I mention I don't want them counter balanced? And if counter balancing is bad then why would they do it in the first place?
not necessary bad as your tire still balances out, its like half-assing it. Instead of moving the weight over or subtracting some they take the easy way out of just putting more weight on to counteract the other.
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Unread 05-21-2006, 08:06 PM   #7
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not necessary bad as your tire still balances out, its like half-assing it. Instead of moving the weight over or subtracting some they take the easy way out of just putting more weight one to counteract the other.
so should i mention i don't want it counter balanced or should I just be really nice.
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Unread 05-21-2006, 08:10 PM   #8
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im sure saying that can cause a little offense. As you are telling them how to do their job. Just be nice, ask at the counter for one of the best guys out there to balance. And like i said a tip can always go a long way, even if its just a dollar or soda. I take care of any cool people i recognize.
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im sure saying that can cause a little offense. As you are telling them how to do their job. Just be nice, ask at the counter for one of the best guys out there to balance. And like i said a tip can always go a long way, even if its just a dollar or soda. I take care of any cool people i recognize.
Alright sounds good. Guess I'm gonna have to shell out the cash for lifetime balancing.
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Unread 05-21-2006, 08:22 PM   #10
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Alright sounds good. Guess I'm gonna have to shell out the cash for lifetime balancing.
you didnt buy the tires from them? ya, you can try and get the price in the computer for that...lifetime truck balance $14 a tire=$56 total
but bigger wheels and tires usually get bumped up alot. expect about $80 for the lifetime.
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you didnt buy the tires from them? ya, you can try and get the price in the computer for that...lifetime truck balance $14 a tire=$56
but bigger wheels and tires usually get bumped up alot. expect about $80 for the lifetime.
I bought the tires used from a guy in the local jeep club. $80 is fine. Any limit to how often I can bring them in?
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Unread 05-21-2006, 08:25 PM   #12
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I bought the tires used from a guy in the local jeep club. $80 is fine. Any limit to how often I can bring them in?
nope i usually do mine after every 4-5K miles or after a good wheeling trip.

EDIT: if you bought the wheels from discount they might just do it for free, but its kinda their call.
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Before he gets started, slip him a Ten and ask him if he'll take care of you.

I've been doing this for years, and have gotten GREAT results from just being cool to these guys.
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nope i usually do mine after every 4-5K miles or after a good wheeling trip.

EDIT: if you bought the wheels from discount they might just do it for free, but its kinda their call.
Yea deffinately after a wheelin trip is a must. Do you do walkins or should I call first?
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Unread 05-21-2006, 08:29 PM   #15
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Before he gets started, slip him a Ten and ask him if he'll take care of you.

I've been doing this for years, and have gotten GREAT results from just being cool to these guys.
shoot, if i got a ten i would even do a little dance for you.

i average $0-10 a week from tips so its always nice to get them. i once got a $100 tip for not scratching some wheels on a porche that was #1 of 50 in the world.
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