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Unread 11-01-2013, 01:03 PM   #1
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Badlands 9,000 LB Harbor Freight winch

Hey guys i read some pretty decent reviews on the harbor freight badlands winch, so i picked one up... 150 bucks after my employee discount! not bad! but i hate the steel cable and i want to upgrade to a synthetic winch line! how do i know how long i could go or how thick of rope i should go? and your supposted to run a hawse fair-lead on synthetic line instead of roller correct?

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Unread 11-01-2013, 01:18 PM   #2
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get a fair lead. 3/8 synthetic 100ft. This is usually the norm for a 8k, 10k winch
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How much 5/16" wire rope came with it? 3/8" synthetic is what you want but the winch won't hold as much of that as it does its 5/16".

A roller fairlead is better for and easier on synthetic rope than a hawse is. The initial rumors that a hawse was required for synthetic ropes were quickly found to be false. I went back to my roller fairlead years ago.

Thor at www.winchline.com is an excellent experienced source for synthetic ropes. And a Jeeper too.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 01:36 PM   #4
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Not all roller fair leads are the same. You can run a roller as long as it is one where the rope cannot get pinched in the corners and it is smooth and free of any burrs.

The amount of line is dependent on the specific winch model. It will vary from one manufacturer to the next. What size and length line does this winch come with?
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Unread 11-01-2013, 01:41 PM   #5
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Can you show any major brand of roller fairlead used on winches we install onto our Jeeps where that can happen? I don’t believe you can show one where rope getting caught in the corners could really (realistically) happen.

Edit: It appears you slightly softened your comments on roller fairleads after I replied.
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i have 50 foot 5/16 i believe i have a pic of the winch and bumper as me profile pic
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Double check that length, only 50' of wire rope is not common for a new 9,000 lb. capacity winch.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 02:01 PM   #8
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I've had my hands on fairleads that were different than the one that came with my Warn. The rollers did not overlap enough IMO, especially if one is careless when setting up for a pull.

No I do not have any pictures. What I can tell you is that the line CAN get caught and damaged in some roller fairleads.

With that said, educating oneself on proper recovery techniques and having the ability of recognizing and minimizing possible issues is just as important as the equipment you use. I've seen some very poor recover practices by people who didn't know any better.
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So you bought a $150 winch and you want to put a $250+ syn. line on it?
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He can always move that $250 synthetic line to a better quality winch later when it's time to replace that Badlands winch.
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He can always move that $250 synthetic line to a better quality winch later when it's time to replace that Badlands winch.
Yep I am an unemployed college student (The VA pays me very little) but the common sense route is it's better to have a budget winch, than none at all. But with 400 dollars could he have bought a better Chinese winch?
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But with 400 dollars could he have bought a better Chinese winch?
That's what I paid for my Warn M8000 new about 3 years ago. Granted it was a great deal - I haven't seen them anywhere near that price except back then.

If you're on a budget, why go synthetic at all? I haven't replaced the wire rope with synthetic yet and probably won't. I only installed it (the winch) as cheap insurance and don't really use my current Jeep like I did older ones I've owned.
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That's what I paid for my Warn M8000 new about 3 years ago. Granted it was a great deal - I haven't seen them anywhere near that price except back then.

If you're on a budget, why go synthetic at all? I haven't replaced the wire rope with synthetic yet and probably won't. I only installed it (the winch) as cheap insurance and don't really use my current Jeep like I did older ones I've owned.
Yep. That is my train of thought. I am assuming he bought it because of an existing budget. And if that is the case steel cable has worked for decades.
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Unread 11-01-2013, 04:31 PM   #14
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Maybe he only needs the winch on that one time he may be in a bad spot because he doesn't wheel a lot. Not everyone needs an expensive winch or a used one. Now if he is using it a lot then let the typical arguments fly.

Just answer the guys questions and lay off the winch brand.
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I bought my XD9000i for $360 plus shipping. It is a very early model and I bought it used. I am still running the steel cable that it came with. Once the cable needs to be replaced I will look at synthetic. I use it maybe once or twice a year and it is never too serious of a pull
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