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post #1 of 16 Old 10-01-2011, 05:30 PM Thread Starter
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back of instrument cluster which connector goes where

I pulled apart a dash down to the bare frame. And was putting everything back in when I noticed the gauge cluster has 2 connectors (2000 model) and they are exactly alike. They can even be upside down. This has me stumped, as depending on which way the harness comes in the connectors can be on either side. I looked in the FSM and it gave me no clue. I didnt look too hard either seeing as its Saturday and foosball is killing most of my time.
one connector is gray and other is black. Which goes where?

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post #2 of 16 Old 10-01-2011, 07:07 PM
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You should be able to match up the colors, but I am almost certain that they are different enough that you can't plug them in wrong.
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I know for a FACT you can. upside down and in either connector.. The back of the cluster is white. Has no indication of which goes where or in what orientation. The 2 plugs, one is gray and other is black are exactly the same..
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post #4 of 16 Old 10-02-2011, 10:20 AM Thread Starter
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I am thinking the 2nd pic is the right way. The gray plug has the CCD +- wires.
And my FSM says that Green should have the CCD and its location I found using another dash post. Here.
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post #5 of 16 Old 10-02-2011, 10:22 AM Thread Starter
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here are the other ways those plugs can go in.
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See if the Monday morning tech crowd can tell me. I think I got it, but just need to be sure, and this post is good reference for those that do the same thing I did later.
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post #7 of 16 Old 10-03-2011, 08:16 AM
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Why did you pull the whole dash? I have a 2000 model and it has self-docking connectors. Are you replacing the wiring with a newer model harness?
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I was changing tubs. The newer tub does not have the docking location. But it still would not matter. As if it did I still would need to know in what location to put the gray and the black.
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What year is your TJ?
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What year is your TJ?
Its in the very 1st post.
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(2000 model)
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Its in the very 1st post.
I read it wrong. I thought you swapped in a 2000 model cluster and your tj was a different year.
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Can you see back behind your cluster? Which way the harness lays behind the dash?
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post #13 of 16 Old 10-03-2011, 10:43 AM
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I have the ’05 FSM so the page #s may be different but in the section 8W-80 they show the connector pin-outs. They are listed alphabetically so go to the instrument cluster connectors (C1 & C2). They show the wire colors of all the wires & their positions. By matching the colors you should be able to determine C1 from C2. Now go to 8W-91 & find the left side instrument panel diagram & see the position of the 2 connectors.

In ’05 the connectors are different & for some reason the colors aren’t identified but in figure 24 on 8W-91-32 it shows the C1 to be the one closer to the end of the harness which ends at the headlight leveling switch connector. That would appear to make it on the right if you are sitting in the seat looking at the cluster. It also looks like the “tabs” go to up. I don’t know how much difference there is from 2000 to 2005 but I hope this helps.
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Yeah 05 is different. There connectors for that model are specific to each side and only go on 1 way. I just took a 05 down to the frame. its this 2000 that has me stumped. Well I say stumped, I think I figured it out using the wiring diagram, but for future reference I wanted someone to post a pic of their harness.

The cluster pins on back are done upside down and right to left, not like English left to right. I does say made in Japan. So thats the way they read books.
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