[acsguitar]

Originally Posted by BlueFlame

...a flat screen tv in the Jeep.. coooool...

And hopefully a wii too!

I figure no one will break into my jeep to steal a flat screen.

[PJL]

I got in two accidents last winter with my GSAs. New tires, quick. BTW, 4x4 won't do anything for you in a Wrangler in the areas you're most likely to lose control - going around corners or turning. I went with the Revos. They rank like 3 or 4 out of 19 at tirerack.com. Higher scores overall than the BFGs and they're the 2nd most driven on tire (next to the BFGs) with over 35 million miles reported.

And I'll 3rd adding weight in the back. 4 50 lbs bags of rock salt can make a world of difference, especially if you don't have a hard top or anything else that would naturally add weight.

[Mista Toad]

I second MDM's "Add weight in the back"...

If your back end breaks loose in 2wd, yeah, it's from the tires and/or too heavy on the gas...but you said you're in 4wd.

Short wheelbase, big engine...

Last winter I found myself spinning 180 on icy roads going 25-30mph...all i did was change lanes...I later realized I was low on fuel...making the back even lighter.

I fuel up if I have less than a half a tank even if it's just raining.

I'm saving up for a rear tire carrier that accepts jerry cans...just for ballast.

[Chris_]

i haven't had any problems with my GSAs. i kinda like them. sure there are better tires out there, but there are a lot more bad ones.

[acsguitar]

Originally Posted by PJL

I got in two accidents last winter with my GSAs. New tires, quick. BTW, 4x4 won't do anything for you in a Wrangler in the areas you're most likely to lose control - going around corners or turning. I went with the Revos. They rank like 3 or 4 out of 19 at tirerack.com. Higher scores overall than the BFGs and they're the 2nd most driven on tire (next to the BFGs) with over 35 million miles reported.

And I'll 3rd adding weight in the back. 4 50 lbs bags of rock salt can make a world of difference, especially if you don't have a hard top or anything else that would naturally add weight.

Off to buy rock salt today!!

[stoker]

I'm local to you and I drove from Cherry Creek to Conifer last Night. I'm guessing that you have a Trac-loc rear. When you come off a light both back tires and One front are all breaking loose. The front is pulling at the jeeps weight, it goes striaght, the two rears choose the path of least resistance and try to go around the jeep Like a dragster. I run BFG AT's and they are terrific but if you are to hard on the throttle (Like most jeepers I can be a Hotdog) you can get loose despite good tires. But GSA's do suck. Sipping would help , I sipped my mudders with a razor knife and a six pack (it;s boring work)

[acsguitar]

Originally Posted by stoker

I'm local to you and I drove from Cherry Creek to Conifer last Night. I'm guessing that you have a Trac-loc rear. When you come off a light both back tires and One front are all breaking loose. The front is pulling at the jeeps weight, it goes striaght, the two rears choose the path of least resistance and try to go around the jeep Like a dragster. I run BFG AT's and they are terrific but if you are to hard on the throttle (Like most jeepers I can be a Hotdog) you can get loose despite good tires. But GSA's do suck. Sipping would help , I sipped my mudders with a razor knife and a six pack (it;s boring work)

Nice I live in Cherry Creek.....

I have no idea if I have a Trac Loc Rear...or what that means really...I'm trying to learn more about Jeeps which I will in turn use to know stuff about Cars as well.

Any particular siping patterns better then others.

[stoker]

Look at your rear diff. On the left there is metal tag that stretches from one bolt to the next. that has your gear ratio stamped into it. If there is a tag on the right that hangs from one diff cover bolt, that is your lubricant tag. It tells you that a friction modifier is needed to make your trac-lok (limited slip ) work properly. If you have the tag, you have trac-lok.

[acsguitar]

Originally Posted by stoker

Look at your rear diff. On the left there is metal tag that stretches from one bolt to the next. that has your gear ratio stamped into it. If there is a tag on the right that hangs from one diff cover bolt, that is your lubricant tag. It tells you that a friction modifier is needed to make your trac-lok (limited slip ) work properly. If you have the tag, you have trac-lok.

yea the Rcky MTN edition has that apparently..

So what good is that compared to normal differential

[stoker]

In a limited slip/trac lok diff. If one tire on the axel loses traction, clutches in the diff engage and transfers some of the torque the other tire. At that point both rear wheels are driving. Without trak-lok (open diff) when a tire loses traction it spins and you go nowhere (your front diff is OPEN)

[acsguitar]

Originally Posted by stoker

In a limited slip/trac lok diff. If one tire on the axel loses traction, clutches in the diff engage and transfers some of the torque the other tire. At that point both rear wheels are driving. Without trak-lok (open diff) when a tire loses traction it spins and you go nowhere (your front diff is OPEN)

Is there a way to test this to make sure its working properly or is it a "If it works it works" situation

[stoker]

Easy and fun to check on a day like today. Stay in two wheel. find a nice snowy spot and jump on thr throttle. if you have two rooster tails and the rear gets real loose, it's working.

[acsguitar]

Originally Posted by stoker

Easy and fun to check on a day like today. Stay in two wheel. find a nice snowy spot and jump on thr throttle. if you have two rooster tails and the rear gets real loose, it's working.

So I test the 4wd in 2wd?? I'm confused...I tested it last night and noticed I had crazy slipage floring it in 2wd and way more control in 4wd

[stogie25]

You could try lowering your tire pressure a bit on days like today as well as the weight, siping, and quality tire upgrade suggestions.

[stoker]

I was refering to checking your trac-lok