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Axle upgrade, time for a Dana 60?
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05-18-2010, 09:06 AM
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Savvy Off Road
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4-6 weeks?
What width did you end up with?
You'll really like the RJ60. We'll worth the money!
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05-18-2010, 09:11 AM
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O rly?
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Originally Posted by Savvy
4-6 weeks?
What width did you end up with?
You'll really like the RJ60. We'll worth the money!
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Yeah, I was quoted 4-6 weeks. It's coming geared, locked and with disk brakes.
It will just bolt right into the back of my TJ. I don't mind doing fab work but for that amount of money, I'll take the ease of it just sliding in.
It was some $$ that's for sure, I don't think I'll regret it. Who would regret having a strong rear end?
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05-18-2010, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetscuh
I may run another RJ 60 in the front. Or do some fab work on a Waggy 44, since we have a few of those laying around. We'll see in a couple of months.
I considered an 8.8 for about...5 seconds.  They are very hard to find around here and I'd still have to lock it, regear, pay for whatever brake parts and it'd still be a C-clip axle. Don't get me wrong, I don't think it's a bad rear end and I am certainly not knocking those who choose to do that swap. I think it can be a very economical swap for some people as well.
I now have to wait 4-6 weeks since it's a custom order. Oh the suspense.
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You can have one built any way you want here:
Complete Ford 8.8" Rear Axle Assembly Jeep TJ Ready to Bolt In Axle Swap
I personally think the RJ D60 is a much better option.
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05-18-2010, 09:45 AM
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i found a deal on a 60front and 80 rear but dunno if an 80 is overkill tho
they are out of an 06 f350
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05-18-2010, 09:46 AM
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O rly?
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Originally Posted by emev0l
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If I built an 8.8 off of the website and added what I wanted it comes to $2,545.00 plus $200.00 handling.
My Dana 60 didn't cost much more.
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05-18-2010, 09:49 AM
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O rly?
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Originally Posted by Alex74012
i found a deal on a 60front and 80 rear but dunno if an 80 is overkill tho
they are out of an 06 f350
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I don't know much about a Dana 80, to be honest. I venture to say that those are 1 ton axles? I don't know how much wider they are compared to stock TJ axles and how much clearance they'd give you. Well, depends on the tire size.
I wasn't going to go with a Dana 60 originally but I can't argue with the clearance of the RockJock.
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05-18-2010, 09:52 AM
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im going to be running full width
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that dd rubi on 37's
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05-18-2010, 09:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jetscuh
If I built an 8.8 off of the website and added what I wanted it comes to $2,545.00 plus $200.00 handling.
My Dana 60 didn't cost much more. 
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Exactly!!!
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05-19-2010, 01:05 AM
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Re: Axle upgrade, time for a Dana 60?
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Originally Posted by Jetscuh
I am looking to upgrade my rear axle.
This is my issue:
I am leaning toward going with a RockJock Dana Flowmaster 60. I'll probably just go with a Detroit locker again seeing as mine served me well in my current axles and will probably be keeping the 4.56 ratio.
My question is, I will mainly be running 35x12.50 tires on my Jeep (for the next year or so, I do plan to go bigger eventually). Will I really lose a significant amount of clearance running the RockJock Dana 60 in comparison to running a TJ Rubicon Dana 44 (current axle)?
I think that I will have a stronger rear end for sure going with the Dana 60. Then, when I go to upgrade past a 35 inch tire I don't have to worry about doing an axle swap.
I am just curious as to the clearance of a Dana 60.
Also the suspension will be a 4.5" Long Arm if you're wondering.
I am for sure wanting to do an axle swap, just looking for input on the Dana 60 being worthwhile.
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I think you should try Dana 60. If you choose that Dana 60, I assure you that you will never regret it...
Last edited by tiresmokindad; 06-07-2010 at 02:43 PM..
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05-19-2010, 01:34 AM
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If you go the waggy route in the front, you'll need new shafts (or have current ones redrilled) for the rear because a waggy front axle cannot be converted (well it can, but not in a desirable fashion) to a 5x4.5" bolt pattern, assuming that is what your 60 will have. Unfortunately, even if you change or drill the shafts in the 60 you'll still need new wheels.
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05-19-2010, 05:10 AM
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O rly?
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Originally Posted by Douglas S.
If you go the waggy route in the front, you'll need new shafts (or have current ones redrilled) for the rear because a waggy front axle cannot be converted (well it can, but not in a desirable fashion) to a 5x4.5" bolt pattern, assuming that is what your 60 will have. Unfortunately, even if you change or drill the shafts in the 60 you'll still need new wheels.
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Wheel adapters.
Honestly, not the end of the world if I need new wheels. Have a set of aluminum Mickey Thompson wheels I am looking to sell anyway so some of that would cover the cost.
Also not a big deal to get different shafts.
I know the waggy front end would require some changes...and they really aren't a big deal IMO.
Thanks for the comment though.
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05-19-2010, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetscuh
Wheel adapters.
Honestly, not the end of the world if I need new wheels. Have a set of aluminum Mickey Thompson wheels I am looking to sell anyway so some of that would cover the cost.
Also not a big deal to get different shafts.
I know the waggy front end would require some changes...and they really aren't a big deal IMO.
Thanks for the comment though.
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If I remember correctly that Waggy front hangs down almost as low as a standard front D60. Since your going to have the nice high clearance RJ rear I'm willing to bet your going to go with the matching RJ front when the time comes.
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05-19-2010, 06:33 AM
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I like the idea of using a proper fitting D60 under a TJ since it would keep it close to the same width, making the jeep stand out less to passing by officers/troopers...
I drive my jeep to the trails (hopefully home too!) and having a full width axle on a 100 mile trip would be a bit silly. This is one of those moments where you can go full width if you're planning on trailering I suppose.... but upgrading to D60's you've gotta want to be running more than 35" tires - which suddenly gets pretty expensive to be driving down the highway to a trail event...
Bah. I guess I'm still undecided myself.
I'm sure the RJ 60 is going to be awesome, in any event!
Curious, why not an ARB locker?
Dave aka Ghan
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05-19-2010, 07:13 AM
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O rly?
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Originally Posted by emev0l
If I remember correctly that Waggy front hangs down almost as low as a standard front D60. Since your going to have the nice high clearance RJ rear I'm willing to bet your going to go with the matching RJ front when the time comes.
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Really? I don't remember that.
I could go for a matching RJ in the front. However, the front RJ set up is twice as much as the rear (or close to it) so I might spend my money differently.
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Originally Posted by Ghaniba
I like the idea of using a proper fitting D60 under a TJ since it would keep it close to the same width, making the jeep stand out less to passing by officers/troopers...
I drive my jeep to the trails (hopefully home too!) and having a full width axle on a 100 mile trip would be a bit silly. This is one of those moments where you can go full width if you're planning on trailering I suppose.... but upgrading to D60's you've gotta want to be running more than 35" tires - which suddenly gets pretty expensive to be driving down the highway to a trail event...
Bah. I guess I'm still undecided myself.
I'm sure the RJ 60 is going to be awesome, in any event!
Curious, why not an ARB locker?
Dave aka Ghan
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I am not going full width. The RJ60 I ordered is the same width as a stock TJ axle. I will be running 35 inch tires with my 60 for awhile. The RJ60 is different from a standard Dana 60 in the fact that it gives you more clearance (as much, or more, than a Dana 44), that is why I went that route. I didn't want another Dana 44 but I didn't want to lose clearance by going with a Dana 60 but the RockJock Dana 60 solved those problems for me.
Honestly, my 4.56's do well on the highway with 35's. I really don't travel on the highway that often, though.
If you want to opt for a Dana 60 that has some RockJock components and is less expensive take a look at the 4WD website. Someone posted a link earlier in the thread. I believe it's around $2,800.00. The axle is made by G2 but has some Currie/RockJock components. That doesn't look like a bad option either.
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05-19-2010, 07:16 AM
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Web Wheeler
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Currie 9" front with 1 ton outers.
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