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Unread 09-06-2011, 01:27 PM   #1
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ATX Artillery Rims on Wrangler TJ?

Hey, guys! I'm new here and this is my first post. I'm looking at buying a used '97 TJ in the next few months and I'm dreaming of all the possibilities and options to choose from when customizing these beasts. I really like the ATX Artillery rims, but I've never seen them on a TJ before. Do you know if they will fit the TJ bolt pattern and if they will have enough room for backspacing? If you have have these rims on your TJ feel free to post pictures!
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Unread 09-06-2011, 01:47 PM   #2
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welcome to the forum.

there is a boatload of information contained within these servers.... and you are on the right track by reading up on here before you buy your jeep. I trolled this forum for about a year before i bought my jeep; and i learned a LOT, so that by the time i bought my jeep i already knew quite a bit about it.


i had never heard of those rims, so i typed them into google and this is what came back:

(apparently they will fit a JK bolt pattern)



(i know, its not a picture of a TJ, but it still conveys the ugliness of those ricer rims on a jeep)

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Unread 09-06-2011, 02:04 PM   #3
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Thanks, Mattlock! So the bolt pattern of a JK is the same as a TJ? I'm basically just looking at wheels and it seems there's a lot that I have to learn. Figuring out how to shop for tires is an entirely different story, haha. So much to choose from!
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Unread 09-06-2011, 02:12 PM   #4
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TJ bolt pattern = 5 on 4.5.

JK bolt pattern = 5 on 5

Stock TJ backspacing = 5.5" and will fit up to a 10.50 wide tire.

To fit 11.50 tires on a TJ, you need 5" or less backspacing. To fit a 12.50 wide tire, you need 4.5" or less backspacing.

Every 1" of tire width increase requires a 1/2" of backspacing decrease.
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Unread 09-06-2011, 02:36 PM   #5
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Thanks, Mattlock! So the bolt pattern of a JK is the same as a TJ?
No, TJs and JKs have a different pattern. You can get wheel spacers to correct the pattern, but that'll change you backspacing, too.

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TJ bolt pattern = 5 on 4.5.

JK bolt pattern = 5 on 5

Stock TJ backspacing = 5.5" and will fit up to a 10.50 wide tire.

To fit 11.50 tires on a TJ, you need 5" or less backspacing. To fit a 12.50 wide tire, you need 4.5" or less backspacing.

Every 1" of tire width increase requires a 1/2" of backspacing decrease.
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Okay, that makes sense to me. I'm learning something new already, this is great! Question: For 90% on-road use and about 10% medium-hard off-road use, should I be looking at approximately 9 or 10 inch wide tires... or is that over-kill? I'm thinking 17x8" rims, with 33" inch tires. What is the largest width I can get out of a tire on an 8" wide rim? I find the whole "picking tires and rims" to be really confusing. I don't have much knowledge on the subject.)
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Unread 09-07-2011, 07:18 AM   #7
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8" wide wheels work well for up to 12.50 wide tires. You can even do 13.50 wide tires, but that is about as wide as I would go.

9" wheels work well for up to 13.50 or 14.50 wide tires.

A good rule of thumb is the wheel should be approximately 2/3 to 3/4 the width of the tire.

That is not what the tire and wheel guys recommend. They will tell you that you need a 10" wide wheel for 12.50 wide tires.

The narrower 8" or 9" wide wheel works better for how we use our Jeeps. The narrower wheel holds the tire bead better when aired down. You just have to run less PSI on road so you get even tread wear.

Wider wheels allow you to run a little more PSI. More PSI usually gives better MPG, however wider wheels stick out more and they make the tire a little wider. This increase in resistance is probably enough to wipe out the minimal gain from the slightly higher PSI. It should handle a little better with the wider wheels. The wider stance and less sidewall balloon should make it a little more stable.
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