Anyone make control arms for 2.5" lift w/ johnny on one end/rubber on other?

CCJ · 06-14-2009, 01:12 AM

As subject says. Does anyone make control arms that have a johnny joint one one end and rubber on the other for those of that only need 2.5" of lift or shorter?
If not what is the shortest arm out there that covers these basis? 3.5"?
I ask cause instead of getting JJ's on both ends and having great off road flex I'm willing to sacrifice some of that flex and get a rubber bushing in there for better on road ride.

I also ask cause it's come to my attention that 2.5" LA systems (such as treks, and RE's) are alot of money when I don't do anything that crazy off road to require all that down travel. I see easy to medium difficulty trails. I don't attempt crazy boulders. It's my DD and thus an SA (or MA lol) lift is ok with me. I just can't do poly bushings. Too rough.
And I wanna run a savvy t-case skid when they come out (if ever) or at least a 33 eng skid. If I go with an LA kit I gotta run that manufactures skid.
On a rant here... Wish someone made mid arm J arm CA's ( i know currie use to) but w/ 1 JJ on one end and a rubber on the other. Anywho, I'm dreaming I know.
Thanks in advance.

****UPDATE****
JJ's on both ends seems to be the way to go for me. Read why through the below posts.
Tryin to find someone why can possibly build some mid arms. Time will tell.

WillysEdition04 · 06-14-2009, 01:38 AM

Rough Country's new arms are adjustable from stock to 6" of lift.

Check Rusty's as well.

rkwfxd · 06-14-2009, 03:28 AM

I know rokmen makes an adjustable CA with JJ on one end and bushing on the other. Not sure if bushing is rubber or polyurethane.

BarneyJEEP · 06-14-2009, 04:53 AM

RC and Roken use JJ / POLY bushing
rustys and clayton use JJ / RUBBER
currie uses JJ / JJ
Rock Krawler uses Heim / Poly

all are adjustable and can be used stock - 4" i wouldn't use them above 4"

i would go with currie, you wont lose any ride comfort but it will prolly tighten up the suspension feel of the Jeep. Like going from rubber to poly bushings on a sports car.

**Unlimited04** · 06-14-2009, 07:35 AM

Rokmen makes JJ/Clevite rubber bushing control arms that works with 2.5" of lift. I'm going to buy their whole kit when I get the money. My friend currently runs their arms with a 2.5" OME lift.
http://www.rokmen.com/products/suspe...trol_arms.html

Clayton Off-Road makes a mid arm JJ system.
www.claytonoffroad.com

**SpeedJeep** · 06-14-2009, 09:11 AM

Those Rokmen arms look nice. Nearly $1000 for just arms is expensive, but they are nice.

Anybody know of a cheaper source for these?

Mayfair_Jeeper · 06-14-2009, 09:13 AM

the new teraflex monster flex have the rubber on one end and jj on the other...mega beefy too

**mrblaine** · 06-14-2009, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CCJ

I ask cause instead of getting JJ's on both ends and having great off road flex I'm willing to sacrifice some of that flex and get a rubber bushing in there for better on road ride.

You've been reading the internet again, haven't you?

Only the internet would tell you that you sacrifice ride quality for flex if you run JJ's on both ends of the control arms.

Get some arms with real JJ's on both ends and be done. Your ride quality won't suffer and you won't have to be replacing those crap Clevite bushings.

**Imped** · 06-14-2009, 09:42 AM

Just as blaine said, Currie arms with JJs on both ends will NOT sacrifice the on road ride ONE BIT. It will make your ride better. I run all Currie arms with JJs on both ends and the ride on road and the offroad performance are both incredible. The JJs are very tight so don't expect them to make any noise or ride anything but awesome. Go with the full set of Currie arms....you won't regret it. If you must go with JJ/rubber, then Rokmen should be your only choice. Awesome company and awesome products. That should narrow it down for you. Both of these options, and every adjustable short arm I know of, can adjust down to stock length. That will not be an issue no matter who you go with. I'm running a 2.5" lift with the Currie arms no problem. With that height, I would adjust the lowers to 16".

rondak46 · 06-14-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mrblaine

You've been reading the internet again, haven't you?

Only the internet would tell you that you sacrifice ride quality for flex if you run JJ's on both ends of the control arms.

Get some arms with real JJ's on both ends and be done. Your ride quality won't suffer and you won't have to be replacing those crap Clevite bushings.

I don't see how having one rubber bushing at the axle mount cannot have two benefits:

1) It would isolate the shock coming from the axle and make the ride fee smoother; in the same way that rubber bushings are better than poly bushings for shock absorption.

2) it would protect the JJ from the same shock and preserve it (less-frequent JJ rebuillds).

I would go with the RE superflex for those reasons.

**Imped** · 06-14-2009, 09:52 AM

Recommending the RE superflex joint over a JJ shows that you've never had experience with a real JJ. Watch this and you'll understand why the double johnny joint is the BEST way to go.

http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...nnyjoints.aspx

bnine · 06-14-2009, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by rondak46

I would go with the RE superflex for those reasons.

That is terrible advice. The RE superflex has to be one of the worst aftermarket arms in existance.

For the record, JJ's are not designed to be run with a bushing on one end in a short application. They will rub out of misalignment and speed up the wear on the rubber bushing. Same that happens to those crappy superflex units over and over.

rondak46 · 06-14-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by imped4now

Recommending the RE superflex joint over a JJ shows that you've never had experience with a real JJ. Watch this and you'll understand why the double johnny joint is the BEST way to go.

http://www.currieenterprises.com/ces...nnyjoints.aspx

I have experience swapping out Poly bushings for Rubber bushings and the change is remarkable. I don't know what Currie's "Durathane is but I would guess it is a type of polyurethane and is unlike rubber in it's advantages. That said, I see that there is some "give" due to the Durathane which is good.

At half the price howver, I think the RE's are an excellent solution, giving adequate flex and superior isolation.

To be sure, I do not have experience with the Currie dual JJ arms, but I do have experience the the RE SF arms.

Cheers,

Mike

rondak46 · 06-14-2009, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by bnine

That is terrible advice. The RE superflex has to be one of the worst aftermarket arms in existance.

For the record, JJ's are not designed to be run with a bushing on one end in a short application. They will rub out of misalignment and speed up the wear on the rubber bushing. Same that happens to those crappy superflex units over and over.

The OP asked " Anyone make control arms for 2.5" lift w/ johnny on one end/rubber on other?"

That, and the fact that they are half the price of the Currie's makes it a little less " Terrrible" of a recommendation. IMO.

Cheers, Mike

**Imped** · 06-14-2009, 10:24 AM

CCJ--How long are you going to keep looking for arms? You keep asking the same questions over and over and the answers are right in front of you man! GO WITH THE CURRIE ARMS. They will meet your length requirements and will give you an awesome on-road ride (believe me, you'll be very surprised at the difference they make over stock arms) and will give you uninhibited flex offroad. Just order them and quit thinking so damn much. I've been running them for MONTHS now...if you have any other questions, just ask.