[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by JeepRocks86

Shhhh you wern't supposed to tell that I sucked at reading.

Just trying to get more answers because I want one.

Two different products. Two different functions.

[JeepRocks86]

so effectively it is a disconnected sway bar offroad when disconnected and a connected one on the street. From what I can see in the photos it is variable from firmer (Front hole) and at the loosest setting it would give the most articulation when connected (back hole).

So you get a stiffer than factory in the front hole
like the currie anti rock in the back hole (when connected?)
and disconnected sway bar when the lever is switched off so the passenger side can rotate?

I have no first hand knowledge about either products which is why I am asking and trying to make guesses.

[JeepRocks86]

also, what's the difference between the

SwayLOC™

and the

SwayLOC SR

is the swayloc what i described or similar and teh SR is like the Tera one or the skycrapper one?

[kd4yor]

The SR is a single rate of twist bar. It's on or off. Lever arm position is irrelevant.

The regular bar is TWO bars in ONE. A Currie inside a hollow larger than stock bar. again lever arm position is irrevelant.

On the SR it's on or off. On the regular you have Stock stiff and soft resistance at the flip of the lever.

[V-8unlimited]

So, which is better, the SR, or the original? I am wanting to order one this week after reading this post. Help a brother out here. Jeep will be 80% daily driver, and will see some long trips.

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by 1997jeeptj

So, which is better, the SR, or the original? I am wanting to order one this week after reading this post. Help a brother out here. Jeep will be 80% daily driver, and will see some long trips.

The dual rate version is hands down the best. No comparison.

[lupinsea]

A ranking of swaybar options on the market from Best --> Worst:

BEST

Dual Rate Swaybars - Offer best of both worlds with a stiffer street setting and a softer offroad setting. NOTE: A swaybar is ALWAYS hooked up with a DUAL rate swaybar sytem. . . it's only a matter of whether the stiffer swaybar is engaged or not. This is the top-of-the-line in on AND off-road Jeep suspension control. Offroad it works exactly like the Anti-rock and onroad you have the benefit of a stiffer swaybar. Switching between the settings is a snap, just flip a lever or hit a button. $500-$600 depending on options.

The regular SwayLOC is a dual rate swaybar system.

Teraflex has a dual rate system but since they ripped off the SwayLOC design I won't mention it.


Single Rate Offroad Swaybars - These are great for trail rigs as they offer a lot of articulation and yet maintain suspension and chassis control and help with traction by balancing the TJ's front and rear suspension out. The downside is that they have a lot more body lean on the street than stock swaybars or the SwayLOC. Priced ~$280.

Currie's Anti-rock is the only offroad swaybar I know of.


Quick Disconnects - For around $100 you can easily disconnect the front swaybar. There is no offroad suspension / chassis control but you do get more articulation so there's something. But hooking up the quick discos can be challenging if it's wet and muddy or the Jeep is on uneven ground.

Many manufacturers:
Teraflex
Rubicon Express
JKS, etc.


Swaybar Disconnect "Systems" - They may "look" like a dual rate swaybar but they aren't. These have a knob, lever, or hub that engages or disengages a control arm from a single stiff on-road swaybar. Effectively they perform the same fuction as quick discos except you unhook the swaybar via a knob, lever, or hub. And like the discos they only offer articulation and not any chassis or suspension control. I rank them below the quick discos simply because they do the same thing but cost 3 times as much at $300.

Many manufacturers:
SwayLOC SR
Teraflex S/T Swaybar System
Skyjacker's Rock-Lock thingy


Home Made Disco's - They do what the commercially available qucik discos do but you make them yourself for $5 ea in hardware from the home improvement store. They're not as "tight" as the commercially made ones and the parts can wear out sooner (in 1-2 years) because of it. Like the normal quick discos they give you articulation but no off-road chassis or suspension control.

Manufacturer: you.


Stock Jeep Swaybar - What our Jeeps come with. Good for on-road stability but sucks rocks offroad. No off-road articulation. Helps you lift tires in the air and lose traction.

Manufacturer: Jeep

Cost $7000 - $25000 depending on used or new Jeep prices

WORST

Please note, there are TWO SwayLOC thingies from ORO:

"SwayLOC" is the dual rate swaybar, the version
"SwayLOC SR" is the quick disconect type version

[JeepRocks86]

once again, a good writeup/insight by lupinsea

[V-8unlimited]

where is the best place to buy the dual rate sway loc. Is is a bolt on item with my 4.5" RE lift kit?

[lupinsea]

From what I had seen maybe a year ago prices are about the same regardless of where you go.

Talk to DC4wd.com as he usually has some very good prices. But I picked mine up from a local (to me) shop called Northridge4x4.com. They had free shipping at the time. Expect to pay around $500 for the manual version and $600 for the air-actuated version.

It's a bolt-on system that completely replaces your stock swaybar. But, you might need to double check your tire clearance. With 4.25" back spacing and 11.5" wide tires I'm fine. The passenger side assembly sticks out a little ways. Also, given that (like the Anti-rock) the SwayLOC fits through your front tubular cross-member you will need to check your bumper clearances.

All I can say is that it's definitely worth no matter what you need to do bumper or backspacing wise.

[mattman8706]

I have the anti-rock and love it!
my jeep is not my dd though if it was I would upgrade to the sawyloc
but since it is not the anti-rock does great!

[V-8unlimited]

OK, talked to DC, and he did not reccomend or sell the swayloc.
Here is the deal. I want my jeep to drive better if possible on the road. I will have it finished around the end of Jan.(V-8 swap, RE longarm kit). If anyone knows of a place to buy this product, or directly, I would love to purchase it with a 1 day money back warranty. If it is as great as they clame, I know of at least 3 of my buddies who will jump on the bandwagon. However, I hate to shell out $500 clams on a product I will not notice any difference on the road.

[SuperWade2]

Originally Posted by 1997jeeptj

OK, talked to DC, and he did not reccomend or sell the swayloc.
Here is the deal. I want my jeep to drive better if possible on the road. I will have it finished around the end of Jan.(V-8 swap, RE longarm kit). If anyone knows of a place to buy this product, or directly, I would love to purchase it with a 1 day money back warranty. If it is as great as they clame, I know of at least 3 of my buddies who will jump on the bandwagon. However, I hate to shell out $500 clams on a product I will not notice any difference on the road.

I don't know about DC (and have had good experience with a few orders from him), but some vendors tend to not "recommend" items that they don't carry. They want to sell you what they have and often what they make the most money on. I take the recommendations based on the guys actually using and abusing the stuff vs. the ones selling it (while often those guys are wheelers, sometimes the business comes before the wheeling).

Just my $.02's

SW2

P.S. I will be buying a Swayloc for my Daily Driver Jeep as soon as funds allow...

[mrblaine]

Originally Posted by 1997jeeptj

However, I hate to shell out $500 clams on a product I will not notice any difference on the road.

Any difference over what?

[Lawrence]

Originally Posted by 1997jeeptj

Here is the deal. I want my jeep to drive better if possible on the road.

Then get the SwayLock and don't look back. I have the Currie AntiRock, and it is a great product that performs very well. However, I drove a couple TJs with the Swaylock, and it was much nicer. The body roll was completely gone, they cornered as well as (if not better) than most passenger cars. The freaky thing is that with my AntiRock, I am used to slowing down in curves to limit body roll, with the Swaylock you don't have to slow down, totally different.

Originally Posted by 1997jeeptj

If anyone knows of a place to buy this product, or directly, I would love to purchase it with a 1 day money back warranty. I hate to shell out $500 clams on a product I will not notice any difference on the road.

Get it from ORO. I'll give you the 1 day warranty... If you don't like it, how about my Currie Antirock plus a couple bills for your Swaylock.