[Neec0]

EDIT: This original post has been edited many times and is in functionality a shopping/wish list... If I have paid for something I have commented what I bought from where...


So, after reading and hair pulling and deep introversion, I have come up with a build plan. Read it over and tell me what you think and what I am missing. Also are 12.5's too big for this setup and Nebraska Winters?

This is for my DD. Details in my profile.

Lift:

1. EDIT: BDS/Blistien pieced together lift, w/ Currie CA's and steering
1a. ZJ Tie Rod Conversion. PAID Advanced

1. Zone 3" $459 Zone

1. RC 2.5 SL/1.25 BL Kit – $389.95 RC Lift

2. JKS Sway Bar links Front/Rear - $163.00 JKS Disco's (edited 1/21/2011 for price)

3. JKS MML Spacers – $60 JKS MML

4. Currie Front ADJ $229 Currie

5. RC Rear ADJ Track Bar $119 - RC

6. 2.2 Performance Steering Stabilizer – $49.95 Steering Stabilizer (On sale right now for 28.95!!!)

Lift $1059.8

Armor/Bumpers

1. MetalCloak Aluminum Frame-mount front bumper. PAID. MC

2. PSC Ricochet Rockers $438 Rocker 3

2. Genright Rockers $399 Rocker 1

3. Rokmen Merc’s Rockers $389 Rocker 2

7. Various skids. Most Likely the UCF Complete Tran/Eng skid - UCF


Wheels/Tires Tire protection plans???

1. BFG KM2’s 33 X 12.50 X 15 $1048.05 shipped Discount Tires

2. BFG KM2’s 33 X 10.50 X 15 $846.65 shipped Discount Tires

3. Cragar Soft 8’s $211.70 shipped Summit Racing

Top:

Rampage Bowless Sailcloth Soft Top. PAID. JeepAddons (my writeup is here: My Top)

EDITED: To show some changes to the plans.

[NotURMailman]

One vote for the second suspension option. It will leave you wide open for a TT w/SYE later on. Might I suggest a Savvy fuel tank skid with that too, it can raise the tank up with the BL.

[Imped]

Very nice plans. I'd just go with the second lift option, as it's a much better value AND you won't have to drop the t-case skid. That in and of itself is very important. JKS sway bar links are EXCELLENT. I have both front and rear. You can do the BD MML, but honestly, save the money and just get spacers. Your stock motor mounts are undoubtedly perfect, being your jeep isn't old at all. You won't notice any difference between the new mounts and your current mounts, especially for the difference in price. The ONLY thing i would add is do adj. track bars if you can. You can go cheap with the rear (RC is a good bar that I've personally dealt with on a buddy's jeep) but I would go with JKS or Currie up front. That will give you a very complete taller suspension to fit 33's and larger in the future. I run several of those components and wouldn't have it any other way. That will give you a great base and will allow you to do other things in the future:

SYE
TT
Gas tank tuck
Control arms
Hi-lines, D60's and 40's.......
The options are endless.....

[Neec0]

Originally Posted by NotURMailman

One vote for the second suspension option. It will leave you wide open for a TT w/SYE later on. Might I suggest a Savvy fuel tank skid with that too, it can raise the tank up with the BL.

That is where my heart is. But damn the RE kit would be nice! It was a tough decision so I am leaving it open till I have the cash for the build. Then I will decide!

And I definitely want the TT later and Of course if Savvy would put one out it would be from them. I might take all their gear if they get movin!

Just kidding prov/blaine. You guys are busy I am sure.

[Neec0]

Originally Posted by imped4now

Very nice plans. I'd just go with the second lift option, as it's a much better value AND you won't have to drop the t-case skid. That in and of itself is very important. JKS sway bar links are EXCELLENT. I have both front and rear. You can do the BD MML, but honestly, save the money and just get spacers. Your stock motor mounts are undoubtedly perfect, being your jeep isn't old at all. You won't notice any difference between the new mounts and your current mounts, especially for the difference in price. The ONLY thing i would add is do adj. track bars if you can. You can go cheap with the rear (RC is a good bar that I've personally dealt with on a buddy's jeep) but I would go with JKS or Currie up front. That will give you a very complete taller suspension to fit 33's and larger in the future. I run several of those components and wouldn't have it any other way.

Was told by a couple guys I wouldn't need the Front/Rear Track Bars, just the bracket for this setup. Plus don't they hit the diff covers?

And the BL is going to be a must in the long run for the TT anyway might as well do it now. The MML will be fine with just the spacers? I had them in there till another member said that the new mount was much stronger and better in the long run. Don't want to be replacing to many things that aren't broken, when its time for 35's! But I will definitely take that into consideration.

[Imped]

Originally Posted by Neec0

That is where my heart is. But damn the RE kit would be nice! It was a tough decision so I am leaving it open till I have the cash for the build. Then I will decide!

And I definitely want the TT later and Of course if Savvy would put one out it would be from them. I might take all their gear if they get movin!

Just kidding prov/blaine. You guys are busy I am sure.

What's the RE kit have over your second option? Ummm, nothing. And it's a crap load more money. The quality of the RC springs and shocks is excellent. And you're getting even better parts than the RE parts for your other components, like the JKS sway bar links.

[Imped]

Originally Posted by Neec0

Was told by a couple guys I wouldn't need the Front/Rear Track Bars, just the bracket for this setup. Plus don't they hit the diff covers?

And the BL is going to be a must in the long run for the TT anyway might as well do it now. The MML will be fine with just the spacers? I had them in there till another member said that the new mount was much stronger and better in the long run. Don't want to be replacing to many things that aren't broken, when its time for 35's! But I will definitely take that into consideration.

I wouldn't recommend things if I didn't know they worked just as well, if not better, than the other stuff. You don't NEED track bars at all, but if you want your axles centered PROPERLY and your thrust angle to be correct, you want them. My JKS track bar has never hit my diff cover. I've got it set very close, but no hit. Yes, it MAY hit in one situation--when your driver side front tire is stuffed. IMO, either keep the axles un-centered or do it right. Brackets are a shoddy way of doing it, IMO. And no, the stock motor mounts are plenty strong. If you want to go overboard, go ahead and get new mounts. But I'd recommend saving the money and putting it toward the track bars. I run the JKS MML spacers and have had 0 issues. Even Dave at Rokmen recommended the spacers over full replacement brackets.

[Neec0]

Originally Posted by imped4now

What's the RE kit have over your second option? Ummm, nothing. And it's a crap load more money. The quality of the RC springs and shocks is excellent. And you're getting even better parts than the RE parts for your other components, like the JKS sway bar links.

Agreed. Just heard both good and bad about RC's before the 2.2's and heard nothing but good about the RE. But you're right about the money...



Oh and I like that rig of yours btw, and some of your posts have slight impressions on what my final build is going to be. That and the other regular bad-a$$'s round here...

[Neec0]

Originally Posted by imped4now

I wouldn't recommend things if I didn't know they worked just as well, if not better, than the other stuff. You don't NEED track bars at all, but if you want your axles centered PROPERLY and your thrust angle to be correct, you want them. My JKS track bar has never hit my diff cover. I've got it set very close, but no hit. Yes, it MAY hit in one situation--when your driver side front tire is stuffed. IMO, either keep the axles un-centered or do it right. Brackets are a shoddy way of doing it, IMO. And no, the stock motor mounts are plenty strong. If you want to go overboard, go ahead and get new mounts. But I'd recommend saving the money and putting it toward the track bars. I run the JKS MML spacers and have had 0 issues. Even Dave at Rokmen recommended the spacers over full replacement brackets.

Well, that's 60 bucks towards ADJ Track's.... Darnit, now I will have to edit my original post

[Imped]

Thanks. And yeah, today's been a JF day....sick at home with nothing to do except watch movies and post on JF. Sure, RC stuff wasn't great before they decided to change up their strategy. The 2.2's are excellent. Best shock I've dealt with, including RE monotubes. Not to say those are bad shocks, because they aren't. I'm just very impressed with the RC shocks and springs.

[Neec0]

Originally Posted by imped4now

Thanks. And yeah, today's been a JF day....sick at home with nothing to do except watch movies and post on JF. Sure, RC stuff wasn't great before they decided to change up their strategy. The 2.2's are excellent. Best shock I've dealt with, including RE monotubes. Not to say those are bad shocks, because they aren't. I'm just very impressed with the RC shocks and springs.

That seems to be the consensus.

Well sick days are better spent with movies and internet than with toilets and trash cans. Hope ya get better

[Neec0]

Speaking of the Adj Track bars. Should the joints be JJ's or Poly? In everyones opinion. I am jumping the gun for a bump really, and will do the "searching" after this post, just wanted to see what everyone else thinks...

JKS or Currie as well.

[blackTJosh]

Go with the rc. I love mine. Talk to Jeffery when you order, he'll give you a good deal if you get the lift and ss at the same time so it'll be less than u have it listed. I just got the 2.5 kit at first but ordered the bl and mml yesterday and it'll be here tomorrow. My axles shifted less than 1/4" each so I didn't even put the rear tb bracket on so the bracket or tb isn't NEEDED but something that would be good to get eventually if not at the same time as the lift

[Imped]

For the front, the axle end will be rubber and the frame end should be a JJ. For the rear, both ends will probably be poly or rubber. I run a JKS front and love it. JKS and Currie fronts are virtually the same bar, so it's up to you....but I heard that Currie did make a change with their bar as to not hit the diff cover but I haven't seen any direct evidence. Between the two....I'd go Currie, but it's a toss up. I know Currie has a rear track bar with a JJ as well....now that's cool. But it's not cheap.

[blackTJosh]

I'm pretty sure rc fixed their adj tb so that it doesn't hit the diff cover anymore