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Unread 03-09-2013, 04:13 PM   #1
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Another 5.2 swap But this ones frame up!!

First thanks in advanced for all the help and second Hello to all the members out there!!!!

So here is the plan i have had prob like 10 wranglers in my life and all of them have been under powered even with 4.0 i just felt like i wanted more so after a little browsing i saw backwoodsoffroad.com and my eyes lit. I have aquired a near mint frame from AZ due to the fact MASS sucks A@# with over loading our road with sodium choride so i wanted a good frame and found it so this is gonna be a frame up build so here comes the questions.....

1. I have a few options on a 318 here im looking for the best setup and most reliable, so would the 98 and on magnum be a good choice or something a little older

2. Transmissions are big question in my eyes BC as much as i would love to have a NV3500 they are scarce up here in MA so i have been looking at a a500 setup out of a 98 Dakota only BC it had a fresh rebuild 15k ago what would you guys recommend as for transmission or not recommend.

3. The t case's i have already which is my 231 D HD and 231J have been indestructible and i would like to use either one,im guess the HD one will be better BC its Heavy Duty one with 1.5 chain vs the 1inch one, but i have been reading about some swapped ones using the 249 instead of these are there any reasons particurly?

So once agian thanks for the info and help....Steve

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Unread 03-09-2013, 07:36 PM   #2
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98+ 5.2, or 5.9 are the best choice due to having the correct sensors and harness for the 98+ pcm that will work with the 97-00 tj gages. Pcm's are gage bus specific as well as transmission specific.

A few things to think about. If you use a high pinion front axle the 44re, or 46re out of a Dodge can have drive shaft clearance issues. The best choice is use a grand Cherokee version of either of those transmissions. The starter is on the passenger side and gives more drive shaft clearance.
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Unread 03-09-2013, 08:12 PM   #3
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I have a line up on a 98 dakota 5.2 with a a500 transmission and a 231 D HD im not planning on putting a high pinion front end, is there issues with just the stock d30?s
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Unread 03-10-2013, 06:21 AM   #4
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I have a line up on a 98 dakota 5.2 with a a500 transmission and a 231 D HD im not planning on putting a high pinion front end, is there issues with just the stock d30?s
They actually call it 44re in 98, but with 3.5" of lift I didn't have issues with my old lp44. The starter is on the drivers side on the Dakota transmission vs passenger side on a jeep. I would source a transmission from a v8 grand Cherokee 96-98. If you don't already have a hp30 then getting on wouldn't be a bad idea. You are adding about 100# ft tq to the vehicle and added drive train strength is a good thing to have.

The hp30 is easy to find since they stuffed them in Cherokee sport until 99, but 96-99 are the better years to source from due to them all having 5-760x joints and being non disconnect.

Not sure what you plan for a rear either but seeing you are starting with a frame the explorer 8.8 would be a solid choice. I have a d44 and it's been good to me, but would never even try to run a d35 rear. That would be a ticking time bomb behind that magnum v8.
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Im most likely going to be using the 8.8 rearend i have from my old TJ i will maybe have to change the 3.55 gearing but i guess we will see im talking to a few local guys but thats a great idea about the HP30 from the cherokee those are all over the place around here as well
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