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HAYSHAKER170 05-11-2013 08:07 PM

8.8 axles swap spring perch
 
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I am in the middle of a 8.8 axle swap from ECGS. I assume the coil spring gets trapped under the round plate which gets bolted down with one bolt thru the middle. But the spring has a lot of slop. Is there supposed to be a spacer or rubber isolator which keeps it all tight?

scot68 05-11-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HAYSHAKER170 (Post 15421487)
I am in the middle of a 8.8 axle swap from ECGS. I assume the coil spring gets trapped under the round plate which gets bolted down with one bolt thru the middle. But the spring has a lot of slop. Is there supposed to be a spacer or rubber isolator which keeps it all tight?

Unfortunately no, I have the same issue. I didn't think it would be a problem but since the ID of the spring is so much larger than the locating pin on the perch the springs can move around when the axle droops allowing the spring to contact the retainer and squeak. When I get around to it I plan on pulling the springs and welding a short piece of pipe to the perch (slightly smaller the the spring ID) which will keep the springs centered on the perch. For the last year or so after every wheeling trip I have had to jack the rear up and re-center the springs otherwise the squeking drives me nuts! :brick

HAYSHAKER170 05-12-2013 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by scot68 (Post 15421916)
Unfortunately no, I have the same issue. I didn't think it would be a problem but since the ID of the spring is so much larger than the locating pin on the perch the springs can move around when the axle droops allowing the spring to contact the retainer and squeak. When I get around to it I plan on pulling the springs and welding a short piece of pipe to the perch (slightly smaller the the spring ID) which will keep the springs centered on the perch. For the last year or so after every wheeling trip I have had to jack the rear up and re-center the springs otherwise the squeking drives me nuts! :brick

That is surprising to me. I have been researching this axle swap for at least a year and that never came up. This was supposed to be a bolt in swap. I left a message with ECGS. We'll see what they say tomorrow.

HAYSHAKER170 05-12-2013 07:43 AM

Bump. Anyone else have this problem?

scot68 05-12-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HAYSHAKER170 (Post 15422399)
That is surprising to me. I have been researching this axle swap for at least a year and that never came up. This was supposed to be a bolt in swap. I left a message with ECGS. We'll see what they say tomorrow.

It is a bolt-in swap and from a safety or driveability standpoint it's not a problem as the spring cannot slide off the perch. I'm not sure where ECGS sources the mounts but they are quality pieces.
Out of curiosity let me know what Chase has to say.

HAYSHAKER170 05-12-2013 10:31 AM

I have been trying to get a hold of them yesterday and today via phone and email. Of course being Mothers Day, I understand not getting a reply yet.

The other thing is the brackets for the track bar and upper control arms are about 3/16" wider than stock. Lower brackets are perfect. I have Savvy arms w/ Johnny Joints and they bolted right to my stock D35 axle perfectly. Not sure why these axle brackets are wider. Now I have to put some spacers in there or they will be sliding back and forth too.

scot68 05-12-2013 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HAYSHAKER170 (Post 15423209)
I have been trying to get a hold of them yesterday and today via phone and email. Of course being Mothers Day, I understand not getting a reply yet.

The other thing is the brackets for the track bar and upper control arms are about 3/16" wider than stock. Lower brackets are perfect. I have Savvy arms w/ Johnny Joints and they bolted right to my stock D35 axle perfectly. Not sure why these axle brackets are wider. Now I have to put some spacers in there or they will be sliding back and forth too.

Now that you mentioned it I forgot I had the same issue with the uppers (with JJs). Lowers were fine but I had to add thick washers on the uppers. Are you using a Currie/Savvy rear trackbar? If so did you check to see if the lower JJ on the TB fits in the axle bracket?

HAYSHAKER170 05-12-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by scot68 (Post 15423376)
Now that you mentioned it I forgot I had the same issue with the uppers (with JJs). Lowers were fine but I had to add thick washers on the uppers. Are you using a Currie/Savvy rear trackbar? If so did you check to see if the lower JJ on the TB fits in the axle bracket?

Did the washers have to be the same exact ID as the bolt? I may just use some 3/16" plate if I have some laying around. Then just drill the exact hole diameter in that. It may easier than trying to get a small washer in there. I am really surprised I even have to do this at all. I have a stock track bar.

HAYSHAKER170 05-13-2013 06:50 AM

I simply made some spacers out of 3/16" X 1" bar. Did anyone else have to do this?

RGKHarrison 07-25-2013 02:05 PM

Any updates on what you did the springs? In the middle of doing this now...

freeskier93 07-25-2013 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RGKHarrison (Post 15718157)
Any updates on what you did the springs? In the middle of doing this now...

Probably the only person I've ever seen to have a problem with this. The spring perches on my Artec truss are exactly the same, no issues. I'm not really understanding what would be causing the squeaking.

scot68 07-25-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by freeskier93 (Post 15718832)
Probably the only person I've ever seen to have a problem with this. The spring perches on my Artec truss are exactly the same, no issues. I'm not really understanding what would be causing the squeaking.

Can't speak for the guys above but in my case if the spring isn't close to being centered on the perch the spring rubs on the spring retainer causing a squeak. It's not a big deal.


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