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6.1 Hemi LJ Madness and Mayhem
Ok so I was sitting around that now that i have my freedom back after a 3 year relationship with a 'supportive when its convenient' type girlfriend...... and realized that all the new pups have found homes, i hadnt financed any trips lately, i have extra cash daily, tax money on the way, dont have anybody trying to be the VOICE OF REASON or rather a killjoy
winter's over and i had neglected my jeep..sorry jeep so i figured i would do something mad as idle time is the devils play ground or a jeepers pocket books worst friend. it just so happened i had been driving the jeep for a few weeks here and there and even with 4.88s i just wasnt happy with its get up and go on the street. i had been toying with the idea of a v8 hemi swap and researching the project for awhile. so i got out out the laptop and the excel program just to see where how deep the rabbit hole really was. when it comes to v8s im a ford guy at heart however..its a jeep...to me it has to be a hemi. so i searched the forums and google was my friend for hours on end. i read cost sheets and vendor pricing on conversions, swap materials and the like. i found people like to simplify things and leave other things out. for example... hemi in a stock tjwhat else... common advice found... 'collect all your parts before you begin the project" actual life experience-not so much: yeah thats not gonna work, oh cant send that back, no way that fits, oh you needed 3" not 2" blah blah blah. alright so i set a budget of 10K to do the 6.1 hemi swap in my LJ... i figured i could get it done cheaper than the astronomical numbers ive seen and maybe recoupe some of the cash selling by I6 with 7500 miles on it for a few bucks. motor swap build plan i started with:
the current superlift long arm kit tucks the front upper and lower control arm mounts up inside the frame rails and the trans sits 3.5" off the current mount- this is real estate i need for exhaust. next, the alternator on the 6.1 is on the lower pass side of the motor and sits approx less that 1/2 inch off the frame-not enough clearance for it considering motor twist, frame twist etc. lastly, the stock header manifolds are huge and semi bulky, if you use the 'jeep grand cherokee 5.7manifolds' you will choke the motor so those are not an option. and lastly, the srt was mated to a NAG1 trans so all the hardware and whatnot have to be swapped back to 5.7 stuff [dust cover, oil pan etc]resolutions to the obstacles; pulling the superlift kit off and installing a TNT long arm kit with 2" front stretch. notch and re-inforce the frame for alternator clearance. jba catforward shorty heaaders $$$ a trip to the dealer for 210.00 worth of 5.7 parts here we go ![]() working getting the old out ![]()
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Custom Long Arm with 14" Fox CO Front and Rear D60 KP Front and D60 FF Rear with 5.38s 40" Maxxis Trepadors 6.1 HEMI in process: scaple, clamps...pressure-very good doctor, she's coming along... i need fluids... http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/6-1-hemi-lj-madness-mayhem-1013800/ http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/fire-breathing-left-over-unlimited-1068902/ www.badinfluenceracing.net relays, wiring systems and components, parts, diagrams, tech tips and new store. |
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I think I'll watch this build though it's not something I'll be doing my self. Subscribed.
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motors coming out
![]() ![]() getting rid of the factory motor mounts ![]() ![]() so then i decided that i was going to do a 2" front stretch as i want to run 40s and keep it reasonably low...off come the factory towers and i will be running hoops for the coilovers. ![]()
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Custom Long Arm with 14" Fox CO Front and Rear D60 KP Front and D60 FF Rear with 5.38s 40" Maxxis Trepadors 6.1 HEMI in process: scaple, clamps...pressure-very good doctor, she's coming along... i need fluids... http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/6-1-hemi-lj-madness-mayhem-1013800/ http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/fire-breathing-left-over-unlimited-1068902/ www.badinfluenceracing.net relays, wiring systems and components, parts, diagrams, tech tips and new store. |
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theres about 70 pics posted on my photobucket under giantpanda1326 for those who want more pics.....
but heres a few more of continued progress: ![]() ![]() motor mounts mocked up..notice the clearance of the stock manifolds ![]() ![]()
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Custom Long Arm with 14" Fox CO Front and Rear D60 KP Front and D60 FF Rear with 5.38s 40" Maxxis Trepadors 6.1 HEMI in process: scaple, clamps...pressure-very good doctor, she's coming along... i need fluids... http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/6-1-hemi-lj-madness-mayhem-1013800/ http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/fire-breathing-left-over-unlimited-1068902/ www.badinfluenceracing.net relays, wiring systems and components, parts, diagrams, tech tips and new store. |
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heres a few shots of the orientation of the 545rfe without the transfer case in the trans tunnel. the motor/trans driveline angle is looking to be about 5* with a high clearance pan.
![]() passenger side, notice the projected exhaust line/angles ![]() drivers side ![]() sitting on the mounts ![]()
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Custom Long Arm with 14" Fox CO Front and Rear D60 KP Front and D60 FF Rear with 5.38s 40" Maxxis Trepadors 6.1 HEMI in process: scaple, clamps...pressure-very good doctor, she's coming along... i need fluids... http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/6-1-hemi-lj-madness-mayhem-1013800/ http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/fire-breathing-left-over-unlimited-1068902/ www.badinfluenceracing.net relays, wiring systems and components, parts, diagrams, tech tips and new store. |
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tonight i pulled the motor assembly out and clearanced the frame for the alternator
![]() ![]() thats pretty much as far as i have gotten in the last few days. i talked with rod and mike at tnt today and ordered up my new lift. dealer says 5.7 pieces should be here tomorrow, too bad i have to work all weekend anyways more progress and pics to come. mygoal is to have it back on its shoes in the next few weeks. budget wise im doing okay...as long as i take the new lift off the list..... my old lift is in the classifieds if anyones interested.
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Custom Long Arm with 14" Fox CO Front and Rear D60 KP Front and D60 FF Rear with 5.38s 40" Maxxis Trepadors 6.1 HEMI in process: scaple, clamps...pressure-very good doctor, she's coming along... i need fluids... http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f9/6-1-hemi-lj-madness-mayhem-1013800/ http://www.jeepforum.com/forum/f22/fire-breathing-left-over-unlimited-1068902/ www.badinfluenceracing.net relays, wiring systems and components, parts, diagrams, tech tips and new store. |
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Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Satellite Beach, Florida
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oh this is gonna be good! 6.1 V8 ![]()
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__________________________________________ Rusty Satellite Bch, FL 2005 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited (LJ) 6cyl, 4spd auto, dana 30/44 3.73, rear trac-loc, hard top, BFG AT 33/10.5 x 15 on rattle can black stock Ravine wheels, trimmed flares, budget PA 1" BL & RC 1" MML, Ford Explorer roof rack, Hella e-code headlight housings, 55 watt DDM HID Hi/Lo 6000k, EBC Yellow Stuff front brake pads, Platinum P4 battery, Rusty's 3" 305s front and 303s rear springs, RC rear track bar bracket and Hella 500FFs with DDM's 55watt 6000k H3 HIDs on windshield hinge brackets. Currie's front upper and lower control arms. Hummm whats next? Building a Dana HP30 with 4.88 and ? locker http://www.canddautocenter.com/ |
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nice work so far! Excited to see how this turns out.
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Jack all master of none
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I'm watchin' this !
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Subscribed and crawled. I will take the Jeep when you are done thank you very much
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: , Bergen County - NJ
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wow never seen the 6.1 in a wrangler.. thats awesome, i have hopes and dreams to put the 5.7 hemi in my LJ but yeh not so quick... lol
plus your jeep doesnt look like you skimped on anything.. (ie:coil overs, D60, etc...) awesome im gonna watch this through, Good Luck! |
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crawled....
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'05 TJ, Teraflex BB, Fabtech Front, Dirtworx Rear, 31" MT/R's on Moabs. LEATHER SEATS! (1.25" JKS BL, Cragar Soft 8's, Bushwacker Flat's, & 35" MT/R K's ready to install) |
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Crawled. And hot damn is that orange block sexy!
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awesome... One day i dream of putting a v8 in my LJ....
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