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08-24-2008, 09:25 AM
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I just sold one of my mtn.sleds and I want to put the cash into my tj.It will not be a dd.I want to build a good solid trail rig.looking for some good ideas with this budget.thanks guys.
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08-24-2008, 10:30 AM
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oooh you almost had it
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i would start by adding some strenth to the rear axle, a Super 35 or 8.8. lockers and gears, then armor. looks like you have a good base from looking at your profile. i guess it all depends on what your flavor of offroad is.
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08-24-2008, 11:29 AM
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Long arm upgrade and S35???
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08-24-2008, 12:22 PM
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Location: NW Arkansas
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I love spending other people's money...
IMO, you first need a winch. My thinking is that even locked axles sometimes get stuck...usually further off the road than those with open axles. 
I know my Shrubmaster 8000 (oops, I mean Warn M8000) has worked flawlessly and even impressed my wife this spring when I yanked some big shrubs out of the ground. 
After that, beef up the axles with alloy shafts/lockers/brakes and add some suspension/body armor. Can't go wrong there... 
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08-24-2008, 12:29 PM
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arb front and arb S35 rear would be a good start. armor would be good to add as well.
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08-24-2008, 01:43 PM
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Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
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For a trail rig definitely get rid of the d35, go for a d44 or an 8.8. Long arm suspension with 4"-5" springs, 35"-37" tires and some highline fenders to clear the tires. Don't forget about the armor.
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08-24-2008, 01:47 PM
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You can never go wrong with armor. Start with critical driveline components, and then move on from there (engine skid, steering box skid, stronger differential covers, gas tank skid). After those items are covered, then I would look into upgrading the rear axle and maybe even a tummy tuck.
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08-24-2008, 02:11 PM
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35's (trail rig)? Will need to get rid of the D35. 8.8 or D44 will eat most of your budget. Re-gearing to 4:56 or even 4:88 (trail rig) will be necessary. Lock the front and rear. 1.25 inch body lift to clear the 35's. Add armor if any money left in budget. It's amazing how fast 5g goes!
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08-24-2008, 02:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by roadking
35's (trail rig)? Will need to get rid of the D35. 8.8 or D44 will eat most of your budget. Re-gearing to 4:56 or even 4:88 (trail rig) will be necessary. Lock the front and rear. 1.25 inch body lift to clear the 35's. Add armor if any money left in budget. It's amazing how fast 5g goes!
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With lockers and upgraded axles, you will have a very capable trail rig. So capable that you will likely get into situations where you would have wished you took some of that money and spent it on armor first. At a minimum, I would add an engine skid and steering skid first, as they are the most vulnerable.
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08-24-2008, 04:09 PM
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Super 35 on 35's. If you spend all the money for a 44 or 8.8 your still stuck with a max gear of 4.88. THis is all the front 30 can do.
Being in CO. 4.88's, S35 locker of your choice. Belly up, armor and a winch.
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08-24-2008, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by never monday
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a Super 35 on 35's. If you spend all the money for a 44 or 8.8 your still stuck with a max gear of 4.88. THis is all the front 30 can do.
Being in CO. 4.88's, S35 locker of your choice. Belly up, armor and a winch.
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SOLD-'98 TJ 4 banger 5 speed, 4.88's, Hp 30 ARB'd, S35 w/Detroit and truss, RK LA's, Kilby skids and LOTS of other junk. Should have kept it!
Traded for my XJ - '98 ZJ was pretty and built at one time- Hp30, 8.8 and 5" lift and other stuff.
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08-24-2008, 06:51 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Steamboat Springs Co.
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Thanks for the ideas guys.I failed to mention I already have the winch and bumper covered. There in transit as of 8/21(not part of the $5g).As far as the build goes im going to go in stages . First being mopar performance dana 44s and 5on5 rims. That ought to take care of any money burning a hole in my pocket.Stage 2 will be RE/LA kit 35s and under armor.Coming from diesel truck build ups to now jeeps. oh boy here we go.
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08-24-2008, 06:53 PM
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your aware those axles are not bolt in, right?
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08-24-2008, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by never monday
your aware those axles are not bolt in, right?
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 To Chrysler's marketing guys for getting every TJ guy excited about "bolt-in" Dana 44's (with fine print stating they are for current year wrangler's/JK's)
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08-24-2008, 07:23 PM
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Location: Steamboat Springs Co.
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Oh yeah I know, my buddy owns a welding-fab shop. Should'nt be a problem switching stuff around.Thanks for the heads up though.
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