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Unread 11-16-2008, 09:21 PM   #121
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I picked up my 79' bronco 4x4 5.8L 351 engine mounts.

Loosened the tranny mount (skid plate tranny bolts ) and x-case linkage and shifted the tranny/motor forward.

I'm going to "clearence" the firewall by the passenger side valve cover, then drop the motor back in tomorrow. And will mock-up the frame engine mounting points with card board before work in the morning. Then... I'll build them out of steel at work. Tuesday morning, I should have them welded in and the motor set-up.

Then its onto "other things". coolant lines. A/C condensor placement ( has to move a couple inches ). Fuel line block off for the return line from the stang fuel rail.

And of course the wiring harness.

Priming the oiling system and setting the dizzy timing.

I've kind of whored up 472ci's thread here, but I figure its the best place until I finish and make my own thread, plus it gives some people that might be interested in this some things to consider. Plus, I doubt Amos minds

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Unread 11-16-2008, 10:17 PM   #122
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nope dont mind at all
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Unread 11-17-2008, 11:56 AM   #123
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Here are some pics of the mounts I'm building tonight. Prob. from 1/4'' mild steel.















We also moved the steering shaft over by about 1/4''-7/16'' so that it clears the A/C compressor a bit better but it still plenty away from the frame.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 01:08 AM   #124
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looks good . let see the videos of it driving
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Unread 11-18-2008, 01:42 AM   #125
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Mounts turned out really nice due to a good friend of mine building them. I could have built them, but he's just a better fabricator. Not to meantion, it takes him about 20% of the time it takes me.

driver


Driver


Passenger side


Pass.


Passenger


Driver


What you can not tell from these pics, is that both mounts are boxed and actully wrap around the frame and upper control arm mounts.

I'll take some pics of them out of the jeep tomorrow morning before we "burn them in", if I get a chance.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 03:46 AM   #126
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Those motor mounts are major beef, looks great! What are the odds you could get your friend to make an extra set? I would be happy to pay a reasonable price, just let me know. BTW, I found a free 302 so my 5.0L swap may be coming sooner than I thought...
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Unread 11-18-2008, 09:32 AM   #127
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Looks like we are starting something here brian. May have the next cheap motor swap option. too bad your werent closer we could start selling 5.0 swap kits. I could do the wiring and we could both make mounts. be easy money.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 10:43 AM   #128
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I also have a HO 5.0 in my 97 TJ. Here is a quick video of my son playing in the snow, (2 wheel drive)..



I have been wheeling it for about 5 years now. It is alot of fun.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 11:06 AM   #129
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Sorry, I don't seem to have any good pictures of the motor swap any more. (ugh). I did find this one pic that shows how much room I have between the motor and the front of the jeep. My 5.0 is set back 10" and down 2" to get a better center of gravity.



I can say if you don't clean up the wiring to start with, you never will (Well, I'm still hoping to some day)..
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Unread 11-18-2008, 11:59 AM   #130
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I welded the mounts in and got everything painted. Had to remove the bell and adaptor due to failure to follow instrustions on the part about "clearencing the tranny" so the bolts can go in. I mocked everything up with the top two bolts "catty-wompiss", and then clearenced the tranny my self after removing the motor again ( which need to be done anyway ). Then I was reading about the TOB and stuff, which I have to go buy ( and alinment tool ), and I saw it says it right in the instructions ( which I just found, haha ).

I'll post some pics in a bit, I've gotta pick up the kids from school.

My friend is interested it making mounts if people want them, but... He's not real cheap, haha. I'm sure he could beat "comparable" prices, but he's not going to sell them for $75 or anything. They are very solid in there now. My ole $200 harbor freight welder was "hit and miss", but it didn't end up looks too bad, just not a clean as the normal miller-matic welds.

I bolted the flywheel on, and I know its only supposed to go on one way, and it went right now and the bolts threaded in nice and freely, so I guess I got luck and lined the flywheel to the right pattern first shot.

I'll post pics in a few minutes, then I gotta get some food and a nap. I only ate once yesturday ( POS mc-D chicken sandwich and large fry ), and I only slept 6 hours due to working over time and my buddy waking me up ( which is good in this case ).

Rock Dawg 97124: what's the rest of your set-up ? stock axles and stuff ?
Thanx for the video, no less !! Have you had any break downs or anything with it ?

I don't know how much further back and stuff it is, but mine is deffinately WAY WAY back there. Its everything the firewall and strut towers can fit. I'd imagine that's why the tree-fidy needs an entire new bell since it prob. needs to sit somewhere completely different than the 5.0L
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Unread 11-18-2008, 01:20 PM   #131
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Add $20 to the budget. Ford truck "release bearing" and 1982 chevy camaro 5.7L clutch alinment tool. I thought the alinment tool came with it, but I guess not.

Amos, you might want to put "not 56K friendly" in the title. Haha.

Right before welding


Blurry pic of Bumpus ( not me )


Pass. burn'd in


Driver burn'D in


Both mounts welded


Driver side before paint


Pass. before paint


After paint with 79' Bronco engine mounts sitting in


Same as above, only all the floresent lights are turned off in the shop.


New flywheel, old presure plate waiting on alinment tool and lock-tight.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 01:23 PM   #132
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Pass. side painted.


Pass. again


Driver after paint


Showing off the NV3550 to 302 adaptor, ford truck bell/fork/slave, trimmed tranny snout (1/4''), and new Ford truck (92') Throw out bearing.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 01:49 PM   #133
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And... I'm almost talked into 100% hydraulic steering to get rid of all the bars and stuff on the front end. Its not an issue in my jeep, but... Well, I can do it for free ( I'm a forklift tech remember ).

Prob. won't do it, but its hard not to do when its cool, free, and prob. better than stock.
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Unread 11-18-2008, 02:25 PM   #134
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Rock Dawg 97124: what's the rest of your set-up ? stock axles and stuff ?
Thanx for the video, no less !! Have you had any break downs or anything with it ?

I don't know how much further back and stuff it is, but mine is deffinately WAY WAY back there. Its everything the firewall and strut towers can fit. I'd imagine that's why the tree-fidy needs an entire new bell since it prob. needs to sit somewhere completely different than the 5.0L
I have a 98 exploder 8.8 (31 spline and disk brakes) in the rear with 4.88 and an ARB.

The front is still a dana 30. Maybe a super 30 as I have never broke it yet. (knock on wood). It is also 4.88's and arb'd.

Since the install.... I have broken:
  1. The rear axle (twice). One dana 35 and one 8.8 (spiders both times)
  2. AX15 trans.
  3. Center shaft out of the T-case.. (see below)
  4. Just about all the factory 4 link brackets holding the front and rear end on..
  5. The front and rear drivelines I replaced. Watch the front. Mine was touching the oil pan at full flex!!

I have to be easier on the skinny pedal
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Unread 11-18-2008, 02:32 PM   #135
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I sure hope its got more to do with "39.5' SS" than "5.0L H.O.".

I'm just looking at a max of 4:10 gears and 35'' M/Ts. It will be on the D35 and 3:07s for a few months though.

Spiderman: I can't get a price out of my buddy. Find some mounts somewhere and let me know how much they cost, and he'll beat it, is about all I can say. I can't say a price for him... They will be strictly weld in mounts though.

-Bryan
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