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Unread 03-25-2010, 11:50 AM   #811
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Clearing the slave is not a problem with mine, however I'm running a longarm coilover conversion suspension.
Yea yea...you just wanted the tj-like suspension....I understand!

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Unread 03-25-2010, 11:55 AM   #812
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My front D/S does say "Hello" to my slave cylinder bracket sometimes when I really flex it out. I stole the driveshaft off my wifes 2005 auto before she took it and traded it in with my beaten up one, haha. The 2005 version was the same lengh as mine, but it is much narrower, so I'm hoping that will be enough. It was just BARELY grazing it, just enough to put a ring around the shaft. Nothing a longer bump stop on the driver side would not have solved, but yea, its something to concider. I was looking at drive line angle when I set my engine in. It didn't have a CV rear shaft at the time, and didn't wanna have to get a new D/S to go with the motor swap. I didn't believe the front could flex enough to stuff the front D/S that high. It actully hit my Y-pipe also.

If you stare really hard or can zoom in, you can see how close my front D/S is to the Y-pipe
The slightly longer bumpstop on the driver's side isn't a bad idea, if I run into rubbing with the front driveshaft.
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Unread 03-26-2010, 04:39 PM   #813
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Found this at the junkyard today!


I didn't find a single 4x4 truck with the frame mounts I need. Every truck I found had the saddle type mounts. I know I need to find late 70's ford p/u 4x4 engine mounts or bronco but does anyone know the exact year or motor sizes in the p/u's that work. My buddy Jeff is going to do some searching monday and I wanted to give him as much info as I could
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Unread 03-26-2010, 05:15 PM   #814
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The slightly longer bumpstop on the driver's side isn't a bad idea, if I run into rubbing with the front driveshaft.
I had the same clearance issue when putting the LT1-TPI'ed engine in my YJ. I've read that the TJ frames are narrower than the YJ's are in the engine bay. Is that true and by how much? I'm going out right now to measure my hybrid frame width where I'll be welding in mounts. The D60 I have is going in full width though...
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Unread 03-26-2010, 05:49 PM   #815
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I had the same clearance issue when putting the LT1-TPI'ed engine in my YJ. I've read that the TJ frames are narrower than the YJ's are in the engine bay. Is that true and by how much? I'm going out right now to measure my hybrid frame width where I'll be welding in mounts. The D60 I have is going in full width though...
OK- my frame measures ~27.5 inches OC between the coil towers...

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Unread 03-26-2010, 09:15 PM   #816
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Found this at the junkyard today!
Looks like a winner!

I didn't find a single 4x4 truck with the frame mounts I need. Every truck I found had the saddle type mounts. I know I need to find late 70's ford p/u 4x4 engine mounts or bronco but does anyone know the exact year or motor sizes in the p/u's that work. My buddy Jeff is going to do some searching monday and I wanted to give him as much info as I could
As long as it is 4x4 and 77-79 i know it will work fine
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Unread 03-27-2010, 01:56 PM   #817
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Newb here

So I saw this thread months ago and decided to jump in and start a build. I ran across a 93 Lincoln that this old guy in my town wrecked. Has 40,300 miles on it! It is a cherry 5.0 HO motor. Picked up the entire car for 600 bucks. My main question is with the wiring of the motor. Will the Lincoln ecu and harness tap right in to my jeep harness like the mustang harness does?
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Unread 03-27-2010, 07:02 PM   #818
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So I saw this thread months ago and decided to jump in and start a build. I ran across a 93 Lincoln that this old guy in my town wrecked. Has 40,300 miles on it! It is a cherry 5.0 HO motor. Picked up the entire car for 600 bucks. My main question is with the wiring of the motor. Will the Lincoln ecu and harness tap right in to my jeep harness like the mustang harness does?
Those have alot of wiring mixed in and are alot of work. If it has an H.O. in it then it is a mark VII and the wiring is real bad but other wise it is a town car and wiring is better but still has alot intergrated into it. Not saying it cant be done but it is alot more hassle. If it is a town car it is not a H.O. it is a standard 5.0 and the mustang ecm is not the right firing order. the explorer motor has the h.o. firing order and can be used with mustang harness alot easier. also has alot of go fast goodies already on it. If you want to use the motor you have i can modify a mustang harness and you use the lincoln computer or can change the cam and set you up a mustang harness and ecm or a last option is you send me the lincoln harness and i modify it for you.
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Unread 03-27-2010, 08:49 PM   #819
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At least I have a few options. Honestly, if it was your motor what would you do? It is a mark7 and I had a feeling it might be a pain when I got it. Any how it is sitting in the driveway now and I gotta do something with it! So if I change the cam I could run a mustang ecu and harness? Any advice is greatly appreciated.
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Unread 03-27-2010, 08:52 PM   #820
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mark 7 is an h.o. but wiring is worthless. motor is good cant use the wiring at all. No need to change cam on the mark seven as it is a H.O.
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Unread 03-28-2010, 10:17 AM   #821
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That isn't to bad of news then. So I am in the hunt for the mustang engine harness and ecu then. Hey just noticed you are a Buckeye. I just moved from the Dayton area a few months back. Let me ask you this. If and when I get the harness would you be interested in tapping them together? It seems like you have it down ha. I have to build the motor mounts and set the engine and transmission first which should happen in the next couple weeks. Thought about ordering the BA-200 bushing kit to fab them up. I am in no hurry with the build but honestly can't wait to feel that ford power. Let me know what ya think.
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Unread 03-28-2010, 10:21 AM   #822
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What axles are you guys running with a 5.0?
I am guessing the 4cyl one won't last long
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Unread 03-28-2010, 03:17 PM   #823
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What axles are you guys running with a 5.0?
I am guessing the 4cyl one won't last long
AMos is running rubicon Dana44s. I ran the 4cylinder/6cylinder Dana35 in my jeep for 6-8 months with 3.07 gears, but I knew it was a matter of time. Now I have a ford 8.8 with 4.10s and LSD.
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Unread 03-28-2010, 04:17 PM   #824
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What axles are you guys running with a 5.0?
I am guessing the 4cyl one won't last long
I could pull the front wheels of the ground with 31's and my dana 35 held just fine. It is a good little axle dont listen to all the haters. It went thru three people here on the forum and you can ask dmcastino on here that when they opened it up everything looked like brand new inside. It had 1650000 on it when i pulled it out
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Unread 03-28-2010, 06:40 PM   #825
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What axles are you guys running with a 5.0?
I am guessing the 4cyl one won't last long
I ran the D35 with my LT1 and the pre-load totally disappeared when I re-geared after the first test run... The pinion had a thou or so of play. A lot of power goes through there. Redid the gears again and never looked again- what a pain. Checked them just a month ago and there was a bit of play there again but it was driving fine. Clean oil, no metal and quiet. Driving with an automatic is a little less shocking to the system than popping the clutch with a manual.

I have purchased a D60 and a big Ford Sterling 10.25 gen 2 for my new rig. They ought to do fine, but I am running 37's. Things will be OK with this setup where I drive... maybe ;-) I skipped the D44's and 8.8's because why go half way!!

Until I re-cam the 5.0 too much power won't be a problem- Bummer!! The LT1 hauled a$$ big-time but as I've grown up in a Ford family and my wife's Dad was a Ford mechanic it seems like a nice project, and besides, the 5.0 HO cleaned up has a nice open-hood bling factor, too!
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