I threw in some pics of my wifes wiring harness for her 4.0L for comparrison and a few pics of the oil cooler I'm installing prob. sometime this weekend...
No, its still jacked up... I'm going to order a 86' 4-speed TB tomorrow and hopefully, I can get in there and find out what the deal is this weekend at some point.
I must say this has been VERY nicely done! You really went above and beyond on this project and the pics will be very helpful for anyone wanting to do this swap!
Thanx spider. I still have some bugs to work out. The throttle cable isn't perfect. Of course the clutch/TB issue. I have to set the timing with a timing light.
Oil cooler maybe this weekend if I don't get ate up with the TB change.
Gotta get the A/C rocking.
THen OBA with the york compressor ( this will be a bit ).
Well, then its onto the 4:88s for the wifes jeep. THen 8.8 for mine.
I have the tranny almost out ( by myself right now ). And yes.... Its 6:30am.
Anyway, I think its the presure plate. After looking at it, the fingers on it are worn down ( not freshly worn ) from the TBs in its past. The TB actully looks amost fine other than an odd mark on the very back of it ( maybe its supposed to have that ). I'm going to replace both.... Hope I can buy JUST a presure plate....
I got the pressure plate and new TB. The old bearing was getting ate up by the grooves in the pressure plate fingers as I meantioned before. Got a new federal mogual TB bearing. And the new pressure plate has a different style finger/spring setup on it. The fingers are raised at the tips, where as the old one had just straight fingers.
Its going to be a.... hctib to re-install since I didn't "drop the tranny", I just slide it backward. Hopefully, I can get some help in the next few days. It does look that the pressure plate was the issue.
I doubt it, but maybe the 4.9L I6 pressure plate can not be used or maybe the one I have is just slap worn out. I ordered one for an 87' 5.0L F-150.
a new update. next monday i am buying a 98 newer gt40p explorer motor. So we will have to add 5.0 swap part 2. i will take better pics then and update a few things on my jeep at that time
I had to reorder another aliment tool. Either way, I'm getting more set-backs. My septic tank is going to be getting a new drainfeild in a couple weeks ( or less ) and since I just got the tank pumped Mon. I'm installing a new "baffle" where the water exits the tank into the drainfield. My old DF didn't have a baffle, and I think that's one of the main reasons it stopped working. But were knocking a new whole and all. And work has been rough on my the last two days and I'm a bit short on sleep. So... I'm picking up my PVC and alinment tool tomorrow and that's prob. about it. Then the "Baffle" on Thursday, and hopefully the clutch on Friday. Then racing event and taxes Saturday. Work Sunday. Then hopefully get a tag on Monday for it.... Maybe not on the tag Monday :laugh:
I got stuck with an insulin type syringe while cleaning out my drainfeild, so now my right hand is pretty much useless for now due to swelling, and it hurts like hell. went to the ER and they gave me two shots, took 8 villes of blood, and gave me a pill.
Pretty crappy, what kind of a-hole flushes needles !!!
I feel lucky though, no hiv or hepitis, just a "michelin man " hand and pain.
And my drainfield is 100% hopeless, so my $6900 refund can't get hhere fast enough.
My hand didn't start working unil Tuesday. I dropped the tranny out ( literlly ) while trying to wrestle the clutch/pressure plate back in. Lucky, nothing was damaged ( that won't grow back anyway ).
I got a jack mount for the tranny, so I can lift it back in, which I'm heading to do right now.....
Got the tranny in, started it up and.... Tap tap tap tap tap. Push the clutch in, gets a bit louder, and still doesn't let me shift into gear from a stop... 100% the same as it was with the old pressure plate...
I'm not sure what to look at next...
Two different TB bearings, two different presure plates, doing the samething.
Is it even possible I'm not putting the fork in the right place ? Should the fork go 100% on the back of the TB ? I've been putting it in the middle of the TB between the two lips.
pulled the slave cylinder back up over the fender and bled the system again, but I guess my "melting of the jeep plastic line" onto the ford slave wasn't on there good enough. After bleeding the cylinder a few times, it started coming out of the line where it meets the cylinder. I was hoping that it was just b/c the cylinder was maxxed out and pressure didn't have anywhere to go. I put it back on, with a nut between the arm and the rod and it shifted into all gears perfect !!!
I'm going to try and re-heat the line on the slave, then pull a zip tie over it real fast to help form a better seal after I pick the kids up from school.
Amos, I don't know how in the heck you got that plastic hose to seal. I think that's been my issue all along. Looks like the jeep fitting on the end of the jeep's clutch hose is the same as the fords, so all you really need to do is knock that small roll pin out of the slave cylinder which releases the fitting and put the jeep fitting into the ford hole.
As for me.... I think I'm just going to have a new hose made tomorrow...
I never put my front DS back in after the pressure plate swap, so I drove around today a bit in 2Lo, haha.
gladyou got it working. Mine line is stil holding fine and i will be suprised if they are the same. My advance adapter kit came with a fitting to run brake hose down to it but i didnt use it
Woohoo! Glad you got it figured out! Any chances of a pic of where the line didn't quite work? I'm trying to imagine what you've described but my experience with manual transmission vehicles is limited.
I'll try to get some pics, but brake fluid + camera = No.
I got some instant push lock fittings at work last night, so I'm going to see if they can handle the pressure first. The place I was going to have build me a new hose said, " yea, you'll never find those push lock fittings, just bring it up here and I'll make you a new one ". Well.... 3 hours later, I had three of the fittings I need, haha. If it doesn't work, I'll still have to get a hose made.
I still can't drive around shifting properly, so its not over yet.
That hose was the key !!! I'll post pics of the coupler and slave and stuff in a minute.
I installed the jeep hose fitting where the ford hose used to go RIGHT INTO THE FORD SLAVE, you just have to knock out a roll pin, install the jeep hose/fitting, and pull the roll pin back in.
I cut the hose, put the coupler in, added like 3oz. of brake fluid, pushed the slave cylinder in to push out the air I had let into the lines, then reinstalled it, and it worked PERFECT.
The jeep line is too long, but I think it could be tied back or something and remain 100% stock. If not, you'll need a 8mm to 8mm union instant push-lock fitting and you can just cut out the excess lengh like I did.
TB is still noisy, but that botch is just going to have to wear in or something :laugh: three different clutch arms. two different TB release bearings. Two pressure plates and it still makes noise, so what ever....
Good pics! It always looks funny putting new parts on a dirty Jeep. I just got a new M/T Baja MTZ on a black steelie from summit and when I got it I wasn't sure if I actually had the right one because it looked so clean! I haven't seen that type of fitting before and since I'm not "company sponsored" like you I'll probably have to just have a hose made when I get there.
picking it up next weekend plans fell threw for this weekend.
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