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Unread 10-22-2007, 08:10 PM   #1
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Is a 4:1 good for normal 4 wheeling?

So I have had a 4:1 Tera Low sitting on my garage floor for a few months now. I'm debating whether I need it or not because I don't do much if any rock crawling.

My question: Is there a benefit to the 4:1 for regular off roading where momentum and some occasional wheel speed is helpful?

Right now while wheeling I cruise around in 4-Low in 2nd or 3rd gear which seems to be perfect in that if I suddenly need more gear 1st or 2nd is right there.

I wondering with the 4:1 if I will be restricted to 4-High for cruising around and then have to go into low for the tuff stuff.

Is it that much lower in terms of gearing?

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Unread 10-22-2007, 08:17 PM   #2
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It is alot lower gearing. Based on what you said you will not like the 4:1. It really is for rock crawling.

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Unread 10-22-2007, 08:29 PM   #3
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I both of my Jeeps have 4:1 in them. I love it because I do a ton of rock crawling. If you do not need it to let yourself over a shelf slowly with out using brakes or are crawling up steep or near verticle obstales then stay with what you have and sell it and put the $ toward your next upgrade

You are right about cruising in 4 low with a 4:1, I am in 4th and 5th and then can only do about 30mph max. I have to stop and shift into 4 high or 2wd to really drive any where. It is a pain when the obstacles are far apart and the road is easy.
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Unread 10-22-2007, 09:47 PM   #4
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If your not rock crawling you don't need a 4:1 kit. It would likely do more harm then good.
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Unread 10-22-2007, 10:02 PM   #5
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i'll take the 4:1 kit, you dont need it
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Unread 10-22-2007, 10:19 PM   #6
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You'll hate it...sell it to me for cheap

really though, I seem to remember doing the math and the 4:1 in 2nd gear was about the same as the 2.72:1 in 1st gear.
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Unread 10-22-2007, 10:27 PM   #8
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So I have had a 4:1 Tera Low sitting on my garage floor for a few months now. I'm debating whether I need it or not because I don't do much if any rock crawling.

My question: Is there a benefit to the 4:1 for regular off roading where momentum and some occasional wheel speed is helpful?

Right now while wheeling I cruise around in 4-Low in 2nd or 3rd gear which seems to be perfect in that if I suddenly need more gear 1st or 2nd is right there.

I wondering with the 4:1 if I will be restricted to 4-High for cruising around and then have to go into low for the tuff stuff.

Is it that much lower in terms of gearing?
If you wheel rocks, install it. If you wheel mud, don't. Mud requires more wheel speed than it does torque. If you're just doing some light trail riding, they I again would keep the stock gearing. The 231 has proven itself to be quite useful in it's stock form.

And if you are serious about selling, let me know. I would absolutely love to take it off your hands. It is one of the next few items on my to buy list.
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Unread 10-22-2007, 10:31 PM   #9
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Oh man, a 4:1 would be great for the wheeling I consider normal...but not mud.
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Unread 10-22-2007, 11:00 PM   #10
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I have 3:1 and 5:1 in my box. There are advantages to both. the 3:1 (near stock) is great for just riding. With the 5:1 It's great for highly technical crawling.
2nd gear in the 5:1 is almost the same as 1st in 3:1. I can ride trails in 5:1, but I'm in 4-5th most of the time.
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Unread 10-22-2007, 11:30 PM   #11
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Well I may end up selling it for some axle upgrades. For all those interested, especially those back east, you should know that out in Santa Cruz, Ca. Pretty far!

Basically, I haven't determined exactly what I like to do yet. We have a local 4wd park (Hollister Hills) nearby and I like cruising around there and have fun on some of the more difficult trails, but nothing extreme.

I know I'd like to do the Rubicon for the experience, but I do not have climb every obstacle to be happy. I do not see myself doing a lot of rock crawling, just does not interest me. I don't like the idea of possbily of breaking parts and I don't have the budget (wife) that would allow for it.

Trail riding, light rock work, little bit of mud...not intersted in trimming my fenders, flat fender kits, 38 inch tires, 10 inch long arm lifts, or rockwell axles.

I like the 4-wheeling that was common in the late 70's thru the 80's. Beer, bar-b-cue, camp fire...I don't want to be wrenching on my Jeep at 1 in the morning.

I may have jumped the gun buying the 4:1, but I can always sell it.
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Unread 10-23-2007, 01:06 AM   #12
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Unread 10-23-2007, 09:20 AM   #13
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I really wish I had a 4:1. I think it makes more of a difference in automatics, than it does in a standard. My gearing is perfect for normal driving, for 4wd uphill climbs, and I really do have an infinite crawl ratio, but downhill, I'm on the brakes the whole time. I do a lot of riding the brakes now.

A Teralow is definitely on the to do list.
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Unread 10-23-2007, 09:32 AM   #14
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So I have had a 4:1 Tera Low sitting on my garage floor for a few months now. I'm debating whether I need it or not because I don't do much if any rock crawling.

My question: Is there a benefit to the 4:1 for regular off roading where momentum and some occasional wheel speed is helpful?

Right now while wheeling I cruise around in 4-Low in 2nd or 3rd gear which seems to be perfect in that if I suddenly need more gear 1st or 2nd is right there.

I wondering with the 4:1 if I will be restricted to 4-High for cruising around and then have to go into low for the tuff stuff.

Is it that much lower in terms of gearing?
If you want to sell that I call Dibbs! PM me if you are not going to use the 4:1 and we can discuss!!!!
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Unread 10-23-2007, 10:12 AM   #15
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My 99 is a DD and I have teh 4:1 in it. no problems. When on the trail I love the 4:1 I just put around in 3Rd. or 4Th gear. but when I need it I just drop it into 1St. or 2ND. and Up Up and away we go!!
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